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Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by smashah on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @05:47AM (#27047978)
Wait so if the products actually worked as expected then he would not have been caught/found guilty? Why is Adam Neumann not also facing prison time for leasing his own building/selling "we" to wework?
Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by dfadsadsf on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @09:11AM (#27049384)
Because Adam Neumann did it openly and followed the law? If Netflix VP disclosed company affiliation and kickbacks to Netflix and Netflix was fine with it, it won't be a problem.

At much smaller scale, engineer on my team had brother who owned business organizing offsites/company retreats. Engineer suggested we use his brother company for our team offsite (and told what a cool rope courses they do) and disclosed affiliation (that he is his brother). After that I checked websites, looked at other options and decided to go with engineer's brother company. I email HR just in case and it was totally fine. Key was that I (unaffiliated with brother company) made final decision and disclosure of relationship. Event was a blast and frankly I feel that we got more than we paid as brother worked extra hard to make sure everything went smooth and cool.

I recommended that company to other managers and I know that a few other teams had events with them. At this point it was twice removed (those managers did not even know engineer on my team) and no disclosure was necessary.

Disclosure is key.

Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by smashah on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:23PM (#27051955)
If something were to go wrong on the retreat would you think there would be a risk of the relationship being of legal consequence?

Don't mean to sound like a clown but You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go "according to plan." Even if the plan is horrifying!

Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by dfadsadsf on Thursday May 06, 2021 @12:31PM (#27065702)
Go wrong as in retreat was boring? I guess I will trust judgment of that engineer a bit less but otherwise I can't think of any consequences.

Go wrong as in somebody died? Pretty sure conflict of interest will be about 10th thing anyone will worry about.

Go wrong as in rafting guide bantering sexist jokes? Happen to my team without any conflict of interest. Asked him to stop as soon as I heard it, reported to HR, explained situation and nothing came out of it. Again I can't imaging conflict of interest will change anything here.

Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by anotha1 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @06:00AM (#27048074)
Because this is common practice. The business owner my dad worked for "leased" the building and warehouse from his son.
Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by detaro on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @06:24AM (#27048204)
Owner is a relevant point. If you funnel shareholder/co-owner money to you that's a problem, if you entirely own the company that argument goes away.
Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by anotha1 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @07:50AM (#27048730)
Yeah, probably not unethical from that standpoint. My dad seemed to think it was some sort tax avoiding inheritance scheme.

I guess my question would be, is there a point where it does become illegal even if there was an individual owner? Is there a threshold where leasing at higher than market rate becomes illegal?

Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @10:57AM (#27050678)
Why would it be illegal to pay yourself more than market rate?

In the US, you typically want different entities owning the real estate versus the ones operating the business for liability and tax purposes. The IRS treats owners' basis differently based on whether the income is due to passive (real estate rental) or non passive activity (operations).

Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by anotha1 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @11:08AM (#27050852)
Why? Idk that's why I'm asking.

And your comment didn't help clear anything up other than getting across that you are obviously superior in the field of tax law.

Thanks.

Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by Anarch157a on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @06:29AM (#27048245)
Wasn't that one of the issues with WeWork, the company leasing estate owned by it's founder ?
Re:Ex-Netflix VP found guilty of awarding tech contracts in ... by noetokyo on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @08:41AM (#27049139)
It doesn't make it any less shady/unethical.