On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by mancerayder on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:29PM (#27040983)

>I think that's the strongest criticism of incels as well; having a romantic and sexual relationship is not a requirement for a happy life.

Strongly disagree, unless you have low testosterone. Nowhere on Earth except in possibly some religious circles do people mentally push away and control to the point of elimination from awareness their sexual desires and not suffer for it in some form. You don't need to be a Freudian to know that the drive exists and gets out, somehow. If you have a low drive, then it makes sense that it would be viewed as optional.

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Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by rafaelero on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @03:43PM (#27041997)

I mean, if you apply this same reasoning, then "eating this big mac is extremely necessary unless you have one of these weird genes that makes you not crave these type of foods" becomes also a valid argument. It's not about what humans feel they need, it's about what they can live without without tearing their lives apart.

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Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by imbnwa on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @04:53PM (#27042752)

Not analogus at all, there's a wealth of consumable objects other than a Big Mac to sate your hunger. Setting aside fetishism, there's really just one object that sates sexual drive and that's a human being. Or do you think a sex doll is an adequate substitute with no second-order effects?

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Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by rafaelero on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @05:49PM (#27043316)

Me wanting to be famous can only be satiated by other people considering me an enjoyable person. But would you consider that I would be unhappy if I failed at being famous?

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