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Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by matheusmoreira on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @02:24PM (#27040900)
So feminism's answer to the the problem is "cuddle parties"? Are you serious?

I remember people used to argue that feminism was good because sexual liberation of women meant everyone was gonna get to have lots of sex. Obviously, these incels were not invited to the party. Women are having lots of sex, just not with them. And you actually believe "deep emotional relationships between men" are the cure for this unrest?

This is about deeper issues than friendship. It's about people's essential worth as human beings. People don't just have sex with anyone, they select partners and this implies selection criteria which implies value judgement. By seeking intimacy, we all risk judgement and rejection. Can you imagine what constant rejection by everyone must do to a person's self-worth?

"Cuddle parties" won't solve anything because they fail to understand the problem. Even proposing something like this compounds the issue because it's like saying "you are not good enough to have sex, enjoy this platonic activity instead". The root cause of this issue is society and women especially have decided these men are unattractive and therefore worthless. There is no fixing incels without fixing this inequality.

Re:On incels, dead bedrooms and the hard problems of loneliness by dang on Thursday May 06, 2021 @01:23AM (#27059441)
Jumping on somebody like that is seriously not ok on HN, and breaks the site guidelines badly ("Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.").

Taking the thread noticeably further into ideological and gender flamewar, as you did here and elsewhere, is also not ok.

You posted tons of flamewar comments in this thread. We ban accounts that do that. Please stop and don't do it again.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html