This might have been the most important meeting in Basecamp's history, so it just feels odd that the co founder was apparently so sick he couldn't sit at his desk for an hour or two. Or even just during the initial introductions before he turned his camera off.
Maybe he was that sick, but I would be kind of pissed if I were one of the employees. The power dynamic is weird, because if a regular employee were sick they would definitely feel the pressure to show up at a desk, on camera, if they were trying to make their case in this meeting.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up
by devoutsalsa on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:12AM
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After experiencing a pandemic, if someone says they are sick, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up
by philosopher1234 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @01:24AM
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I, on the other hand, do not feel the need to participate in DHH apologia.
he had over 10 retweets and tweets the same day after this call. And did not use those tweets to thank his old team, just more "apple bad" stuff as if nothing had changed.
Color me skeptical.
DHH has one of the most annoying Twitter feeds. He picks a hobby horse every few months and tweets incessantly about it, until something else grabs his attention. Surely they shouldn't have been surprised that many of the people they chose to hire would be likewise strongly opinionated, and not take kindly to those policy changes.
I had to unfollow him for precisely this reason. It’s just a relentless torrent of negativity. Maybe his feed isn’t a great indication, but he seems like a very unhappy person.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up
by fallenfromgrace on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:19PM
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Hear you, but not knowing the exact timeline of events here...and seeing how this is a disaster on so many other levels...I find there is value in showing him grace for being...sick. (There is already so much bad, that his absence/presence is a moot point)
But totally hear what you're saying and appreciate your skepticism!
The timeline of events is pretty evident from DHHs twitter feed + this article. They had the meeting in the morning, and by the afternoon he had mustered up the energy to go back on Twitter to fight with Apple. :)
> (There is already so much bad, that his absence/presence is a moot point)
This dude is one of the two founders of the company and has a leadership/ownership responsibility. I don't think his deciding to duck out is a moot point at all. It's that exact attitude that led to what's happened there.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up
by dantemoose on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @10:49PM
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He probably doesn't post most of those tweets himself. Still, bad work by his social team.
Re:How Basecamp Blew Up
by antoniuschan99 on Wednesday May 05, 2021 @12:54AM
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He was on cnbc the day before or something (it says 6 days ago right now on youtube)
If he was sick, whether physically sick because of their own actions or otherwise...sick is sick. Seemed like a no-win for him whether he could either refuse to show up because he is sick, or show up to at least listen to what's going on (assuming recording it wasn't an option).