Re:The compiler will optimize that away
by goatinaboat on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:19AM
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Programmers may care about performance, but project managers certainly don't and they always have the final say
LOL no. Offer a dev choice between a framework that is trending on Twitter, vs one that is 100x faster but "legacy" (meaning more than a year old) and she'll choose the first one every time, and the project manager won't know the difference, or care if he did.
Re:The compiler will optimize that away
by selfhoster11 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @04:03AM
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If it's good to develop with, I don't care one whit whether a software framework is 2 months old or 20 years old. Besides, not everyone works on greenfield projects and can pick what framework they want.
Re:The compiler will optimize that away
by tonyarkles on Monday May 03, 2021 @09:22AM
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I’m with both of you and I don’t think what you two are saying is mutually exclusive. I’m kind of a performance nut (often working with teams, I’m the guy that introduces everyone to a profiler) and, in my N=small experience, PMs are opposed to spending time on performance optimization precisely because most people are bad at it and it takes an undefined amount of time for unknown performance gains.
When I take an hour to profile and analyze some request and say “I think we can cut this thing’s response time by 80% by optimizing $X, which will result in an overall page load time reduction of 3s”, that’s way easier to sell than “I want to figure out why this page load is so slow” and then reporting back a week later with “shrug I optimized 5 things and it didn’t get faster. Dunno.”
I disagree. Programmers may care about performance, but project managers certainly don't and they always have the final say.