The End of AMP - Hackdot

Re:The End of AMP by dannyw on Monday May 03, 2021 @04:45AM (#27022857)

There are active lawsuits going on by something like 49 out of 50 states. That's how damning evidence like this -- as well as Facebook offering to share unencrypted WhatsApp messages with Google (through the "backup to Drive" feature) -- came out to light.

Unfortunately a lot of HN readers are dismissing this or calling it partisan grandstanding, just because it's Texas that filed it.

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Re:The End of AMP by tomComb on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:01AM (#27025173)

It is partisan because Oracle told us so. They have bragged that they ran a decade long well financed effort to make all these actions against Google happen, and what we see now is the culmination of that.

I don't doubt they "won" in the end, but I'm baffled that they brag about "competing" like that.

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Re:The End of AMP by tomComb on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:08AM (#27025257)

Here's some evidence...

Oracle for years secretly lobbied states, Justice Department to sue Google - Bloomberg (2020-12-23)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-23/oracle-fo...

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Re:The End of AMP by propogandist on Monday May 03, 2021 @09:06AM (#27024537)

> Facebook offering to share unencrypted WhatsApp messages with Google

where can I read more on why they allowed this?

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Re:The End of AMP by burkaman on Monday May 03, 2021 @09:50AM (#27025047)

I haven't found any statements about it from either company, but here's a decent article: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/whatsapp-google-drive-back...

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Re:The End of AMP by hedora on Monday May 03, 2021 @10:39AM (#27025646)

According to that article, they also snoop on the content of any files stored in Drive.

To think, just a decade ago, this article seemed paranoid, to the point where even the author seemed to think it was an oversight in the Terms of Service:

https://techland.time.com/2012/04/26/will-google-drive-snoop...

Interestingly, they give (gave?) themselves redistribution and performance rights for Drive contents at the same time. How long until they start openly using those rights, I wonder?

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Re:The End of AMP by alisonkisk on Tuesday May 11, 2021 @11:23AM (#27119190)

Where does the article say they snoop?

Drive is unencrypted because it is indexed for personal search. What is the snooping part?

> redistribution and performance rights for Drive

This is completely standard and required so that they can provide syncing and sharing.

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Re:The End of AMP by nerbert on Monday May 03, 2021 @12:01PM (#27026741)

It's written in your whatsapp backup settings.

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Re:The End of AMP by propogandist on Monday May 03, 2021 @02:01PM (#27028482)

I meant leaks or new information exposing how/why FB intentionally made backups unencrypted when storing on Google Drive.

I am aware that Whatsapp does this and have avoided Whatsapp’s Google Drive backup overall.

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