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Re:1 in 5 EV owners in California switched back to gas becau... by dehrmann on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:09PM (#27020606)
> You can't really get a 240V EV charger installed in your garage or driveway unless you own a home

Not true, unless you specifically mean 240V.

> For residential leases signed, renewed or extend on or after July 1, 2015, landlords are required to approve a tenant’s written request to install an electric vehicle charging station at the tenant’s parking space if the tenant enters into a written agreement which includes...

https://www.kts-law.com/electric-vehicle-charging-stations-f...

Re:1 in 5 EV owners in California switched back to gas becau... by x3n0ph3n3 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:15PM (#27020642)
Yes, he specifically means 240V because that's what's usually required for Level 2 charging unless you're 120V supports 20amps. You can get NEMA 5-20 outlets, but most apartments or rentals don't have them and only support 15 amps on a circuit.
Re:1 in 5 EV owners in California switched back to gas becau... by dehrmann on Sunday May 02, 2021 @09:19PM (#27020668)
It looks like a Model 3 that's driven less than 120 miles per day is feasible with level 1 charging.
Re:1 in 5 EV owners in California switched back to gas becau... by x3n0ph3n3 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @10:44PM (#27021102)
Do you have an electric car and live in an apartment? Please try to use level 1 charging for a month and let us know if you want to continue doing so rather than just switch back to an ICE.

I used to live in an apartment and was able to charge my EV at work. There was no where for me to actually plug in my EV outside. I lived on the 2nd floor and could have just hung a cable out of apartment window to charge, but I wasn't interested in leaving my window open all day every day. During the first several months of the pandemic, I hardly used my EV, preferring my wife's ICE lest I have to take it to a charger near by and wait around for 30+ minutes to charge it.

It wasn't until I finally moved into a house a few months ago that I started using my EV again.

Re:1 in 5 EV owners in California switched back to gas becau... by bryanlarsen on Sunday May 02, 2021 @11:47PM (#27021421)
It's a very common experience on EV user groups to find people that planned on putting in 240V into their garages but never bother because they end up finding 120V to be sufficient. Yes, it takes 4 days to charge an empty battery, but if you're averaging under 50 miles a day, the 120V outlet will have you leaving with a full battery almost every morning.
Re:1 in 5 EV owners in California switched back to gas becau... by x3n0ph3n3 on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @08:59PM (#27044841)
This may not be ideal for those on Time-of-use plans with their energy provider, where energy costs more during certain times of the day than others.

For example, I've set my car to only charge in the middle of the night in order to get the best energy rate for such a large draw from the grid.

Re:1 in 5 EV owners in California switched back to gas becau... by WorldMaker on Monday May 03, 2021 @01:10PM (#27027725)
I still have yet to look into financing a Level 2 charger. I've proven that overnight Level 1 charger easily covers the range of my daily commutes for two of my last three jobs (and that third one was a longer commute than I was comfortable with anyway and am unlikely to repeat).