>Tesla fans have shown a lot of patience and they have always delivered eventually. On everything but FSD.

What happened to the battery swaps and tentacle porn charging cable?

The cable was never a product. It was basically R&D project.

Battery swap works fine on early Model S but they changed strategy very quickly after showing it off. It was only ever announced as a pilot program. It just doesn't make sense and they rather invested in Superchargers.

All cars after Model S were not announced to be able do do swapping.

Even on the Model S the added a shield under the car to protect the battery even if you drive big debris at high speed.

Seems like these are kind pedantic examples.

No idea. I only follow things at a high level. Wife likes her Model 3. Great performance and value for the price. She hasn’t tried autopilot once and we never paid for FSD. I don’t think the market really cares about FSD. Tesla is the first modern and new auto maker in decades to really see any significant cultural and market penetration. I’ll give Elon a pass, or rather Tesla a pass for Elon’s overhyping everything. What they have done and delivered is quite amazing to me.

You are talking average returns. $250k in the s&p 500 in 2015 with dividends reinvested would in fact be worth about $500k today.

Average returns are what you should base a decision like that on right? Looking back it’s easy. But you can’t assume outsize performance when making such a decision.

> Tesla fans have shown a lot of patience and they have always delivered eventually.

And a bunch of other things (many mentioned innthe post you respond to), that may or may not get delivered in the future, but factually have nor yet been delivered.

I mean, Tesla’s still better than Möller, but...