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Re:Tesla Continues to Walk Back Full Self-Driving Claims by ctdonath on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:21PM (#27018086)
Like many technologies, FSD is a long hard road of complex technological development; alas, customers think it should work perfectly out of the box right now to meet lofty flippant expectations.

Your $10k got you the hardware needed to self-drive to some degree, with improvements trickling in indefinitely. Can it drive you from here to there with very little (and decreasing) intervention? What did you actually expect (serious question)?

Re:Tesla Continues to Walk Back Full Self-Driving Claims by kingsuper20 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:33PM (#27018235)
>Your $10k got you the hardware needed to self-drive to some degree

Don't all new Teslas come with the hardware and the self-driving is a software upgrade? My impression was that the purchase basically locked in a price. I could be wrong on this.

I'll be all-in on self-driving when I can use it to go to the bar and come home, until then it's mostly just an interesting technological exercise.

Re:Tesla Continues to Walk Back Full Self-Driving Claims by ghaff on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:40PM (#27018300)
At this point, I'm probably more interested in improving highway assistive systems.

But, yes, there are many use cases that go by the wayside if you don't have reliable door-to-door driving without human input.

There are questions about both whether the current sensor package is sufficient and even bigger questions about whether an upgrade to FSD happens in the life of the vehicle. (My money would be on not.)

Re:Tesla Continues to Walk Back Full Self-Driving Claims by kingsuper20 on Sunday May 02, 2021 @03:48PM (#27018382)
I wouldn't bet against you.

I don't think they know enough yet to construct ASICs and decide on consumer-priced sensors. Hellaciously interesting problem though, I wish I were working on it.

Re:Tesla Continues to Walk Back Full Self-Driving Claims by nickik on Monday May 03, 2021 @07:02AM (#27023582)
And IBM360 was software locked on performance, not exactly a new business model.