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Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by AnIdiotOnTheNet on Saturday May 01, 2021 @12:31AM (#27003126)
Someone a while ago imagined a future humanity where we had constructed a Dyson shell entirely devoted to cryptocurrency generation and were now a species of conmen and zealots desperately trying to convince alien civilizations that it is valuable.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by ineedasername on Saturday May 01, 2021 @02:23AM (#27003772)
"But we spent all this energy to prove that the work done by our distributed mining networks could be trusted. It's trusted!

Aliens: "Um, so... yeah, we were more interested in trading novel technologies and refueling our ships. But seeing as you all look like you're starving to death and have destroyed your system's resources, how about we just donate a few universal constructors and a bunch of feed stock for them. We've got enough fuel to make it to Proxima Centauri, so we're good for now. Oh-- we're hard coding the universal constructors to "food" only though because your life choices have been... well never mind that, our philosophy is not to judge."

Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by ehvatum on Saturday May 01, 2021 @05:24AM (#27004720)
Uninvited additional aliens: “hey guys, sorry to interrupt, you should try protomolecule-chain. It solves the problem of boot-strapping an interstellar proof-of-work ledger. There’s some problems with inter dimensional dragon environmentalists, but that’s neither here nor there.”
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by hyperpallium2 on Saturday May 01, 2021 @02:55AM (#27003949)
Don't worry, long before then we'll pass the Crypo Event Horizon, when it becomes uneconomical to compute anything but crypto, and civilization will gratefully collapse. Our descendents will curse the blockchain and evolve other means for exchange of value.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by Nextgrid on Saturday May 01, 2021 @10:13AM (#27006485)
Right now a non-trivial chunk of compute power, storage and engineering effort is spent on advertising and marketing. I'd rather take crypto, at least it's easier to ignore.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by formerly_proven on Saturday May 01, 2021 @10:52AM (#27006793)
Marketing doesn't inflate hardware prices by 500 %.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by cwkoss on Monday May 03, 2021 @01:11PM (#27027752)
That's debatable, and really depends on what hardware you count.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by rzzzt on Saturday May 01, 2021 @04:47AM (#27004542)
Precious metals are reasonably compact, easy to store and have inherent value due to their relative rarity.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by kijin on Saturday May 01, 2021 @05:17AM (#27004685)
Bring back the gold standard, and enjoy your popcorn as the entire solar system rushes to build supermassive particle accelerators that bombard base metals with all sorts of stuff until they turn into gold. It really is the same principle as brute-forcing meaningless hashes until you get a predetermined prefix. Only in this case the desired prefix has 79 protons.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by m4rtink on Saturday May 01, 2021 @08:36AM (#27005780)
Black hole accretion disks are more efficient for that:

https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/464790d2497de

Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by rbanffy on Saturday May 01, 2021 @12:35PM (#27007621)
Things only have value for their utility. Anything else is a consensual hallucination.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by greesil on Saturday May 01, 2021 @12:45AM (#27003198)
There is some overlap here with the plot of a science fiction book Accelerando. I guess the singularity is here but it's not what we expected.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by cesarb on Saturday May 01, 2021 @03:37AM (#27004196)
> science fiction book Accelerando

For those who haven't read it yet, it's available for free on the author's website: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelera...

Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by ineedasername on Saturday May 01, 2021 @02:27AM (#27003799)
Ah yes-- I remember reading that around the time it was released and couldn't really wrap my head around was "economics 2.0" was actually supposed to be. 16 years later I'm starting to understand.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by ddalex on Sunday May 02, 2021 @05:19PM (#27019134)
That's one smart book
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by CoastalCoder on Saturday May 01, 2021 @02:00AM (#27003643)
That comment makes me miss Douglas Adams.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by DavidSJ on Saturday May 01, 2021 @02:20AM (#27003754)
This reminds me of my sci-fi dystopia idea:

An intergalactic network of wormholes enables rapid travel and communication between worlds, but the collective energy output of the universe's stars is devoted entirely to bitcoin mining, ultimately accelerating the heat death of the universe.

Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by wcoenen on Saturday May 01, 2021 @03:00AM (#27003979)
Stars burn whether the energy they produce is used or not, so this doesn't accelerate the heat death of the universe. You'd have to merge stars for that (because larger, heavier stars have a higher rate of fusion).
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by pixl97 on Saturday May 01, 2021 @08:42AM (#27005812)
Technically if you wanted to maximize energy production you would split every star apart into dwarf stars that lived 100s of billions of years. You don't want them burning at all. Then you would take their matter and dump it in a black hole and capture that energy.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by Yizahi on Saturday May 01, 2021 @05:11PM (#27009861)
That's the premise of Xeelee Sequence novels :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeelee_Sequence

Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by m4rtink on Saturday May 01, 2021 @08:39AM (#27005794)
Not to mention if you could get total conversion of mass to energy going, you could just scare all the stars into inert hydrogen icebergs and use the hydrogen to fuel your total conversion reactors. Much more efficient than fusion.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by Can_Not on Sunday May 02, 2021 @08:37AM (#27014749)
Another thought, an advanced bitcoin miner type thing uses new physics where the environmental destruction used to power it is basically to increase the progress of the Big Rip (perhaps only locally though), but maybe the reason we always thought expansion of space was always happening is because older aliens were already doing the same thing for their blockchains.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by h4kor on Saturday May 01, 2021 @03:49AM (#27004244)
I can only recommend Accelerando from Charles Stross.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by napier on Saturday May 01, 2021 @06:40AM (#27005127)
I wish he’d start writing science based speculative fiction again.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by greesil on Saturday May 01, 2021 @11:09AM (#27006903)
The Laundry Files are pretty entertaining.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by napier on Saturday May 01, 2021 @02:06PM (#27008395)
That they are! But Accelerando and many of his other earlier books were mind-blowing.
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by greesil on Saturday May 01, 2021 @11:39PM (#27012183)
Sometimes I need to take a break from the singularity, you know?
Re:SSD makers start warning that mining products like ChiaCo... by napier on Tuesday May 04, 2021 @06:02PM (#27043432)
Sure, but it's almost been a decade!