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Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by kixiQu on Friday April 30, 2021 @07:21PM (#27000845)
https://www.epi.org/publication/wage-workers-older-88-percen...

88 percent of people making the federal minimum wage are older than 20. A third are older than 40. Median age is 31. More than half work full time.

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by humanrebar on Friday April 30, 2021 @07:33PM (#27000981)
You have a good point, and I appreciate the evenhanded approach. I'm still far from sold that "poverty wage" is a useful term if we want to have a healthy discussion. It leaves too much nuance out.
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by vlahmot on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:26PM (#27001508)
It doesn’t though. Poverty is well defined (and is defined based on the number of people in the household).

https://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty-guidelines

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by AdrianB1 on Saturday May 01, 2021 @09:58AM (#27006350)
So wages should be linked to the number of people in the household? Workers with more kids should earn more by law?

We do this is Europe, we pay something called 'kid allowance'. In some places people make 10 kids for the allowance, ignore them or mistreat them and live on that money.

Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by adgjlsfhk1 on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:27PM (#27001513)
Name one state where someone making minimum wage can afford an apartment, food, healthcare, and utilities, and some form of transportation. I think it's fair to say that if you can't, that counts as poverty.
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by humanrebar on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:44PM (#27001664)
Who says that's the point of minimum wage? That's where we disagree.
Re:Labor shortage or terrible jobs? by adgjlsfhk1 on Friday April 30, 2021 @09:06PM (#27001811)
If you're agreeing that anyone living on that wage is in poverty, I think it's fair to call it a poverty wage.