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Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by tomrod on Friday April 30, 2021 @06:24PM (#27000232)
> Because literally, this is the bar a lot of homophobes exist at to consider a conversation about a gay relationship 'political' or even religious, and they will act on it.

So the homophobe is being political, and therefore breaks policy.

Perhaps they would feel better if they let their misapprehensions and hate towards their colleagues go.

Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by kelnos on Friday April 30, 2021 @06:38PM (#27000398)
In my experience it's the homophobe who gets all up in arms about "politics at work" and tries to get management to implement a no-politics policy.

Their goal is to further marginalize the already-marginalized, and shut down conversations about making the workplace a more inclusive place.

Because somehow "hey let's stop discriminating against $XYZ type of person" is somehow "political".

Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by str33t_punk on Friday April 30, 2021 @07:50PM (#27001167)
In my experience that has never happened

Usually its a bunch of people advocating for socialism, screaming silence is violence, and saying white people are going to hell

From what I've seen (maybe this is just the bay area) you don't usually know someone is conservative until they trust you lol

Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by heartbreak on Friday April 30, 2021 @09:31PM (#27001990)
> white people are going to hell

You’re not very good at straw man arguments, for what it’s worth.

Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by tayo42 on Friday April 30, 2021 @06:48PM (#27000500)
It takes effort to get to the point where you can fire someone simply for being a homophobe. People are advocating for these types of rules. They're being told to just suck it up and don't be political.
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by drusepth on Friday April 30, 2021 @07:26PM (#27000905)
Wouldn't the ideal situation be firing someone for _acting_ as a homophobe (which a no-politics rule encourages), rather than _being_ a homophobe (or having any other undesirable trait)?
Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by tayo42 on Friday April 30, 2021 @07:36PM (#27001026)
I think you focusing on a word that's not that important.

How do you define what's a fireable homophopic offense. You need to discuss it, you can't shut it down because its political and uncomfortable to discuss. You need to listen to the people that are being made uncomfortable and have these discussions. "stop being political" is making a decision, it's the side of no change.

Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by drusepth on Friday April 30, 2021 @08:03PM (#27001294)
Maybe I'm under the misunderstanding that "no politics" doesn't also apply to e.g. reporting inappropriate workplace actions to HR.

If you see a homophobic (or racist, or sexist, or inappropriate, etc) offense, you should absolutely report it to your superior and/or HR, and AFAICT Basecamp's changes don't say you shouldn't. It sounds like they're just banning discussions in the open channels with coworkers ("Hey everyone, do you think what Bob did was homophobic?").

Of course, I might be misinformed on 1) whether you're still allowed to report workplace offenses to HR, and/or 2) whether company-wide conversation about your coworkers' potential offenses is actually a positive thing to allow.

Re:“About one-third of Basecamp employees accepted buyouts t... by tomrod on Friday April 30, 2021 @09:28PM (#27001965)
You are what you do, and you do what you are.