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Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by dahfizz on Friday April 30, 2021 @09:32AM (#26993227)
I am also considering ditching Roku for an Apple TV. Do you have an idea of how well it would work if the Apple TV was the only Apple product I owned? I don't want to drop $200 only to find out I need an iPhone for the setup process or something.
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by kingsuper20 on Friday April 30, 2021 @09:39AM (#26993316)
You might consider the thing that I have, an Nvidia Shield. It appears to work fine and is a lot snappier to use than the Rokus or Fire TVs I've used (also $200ish).

After owning quite a few internet appliances through the years (Roku,Fire,Shield,internet radios,Kindles,etc.) I've noticed that they one thing you can always count on working is a desktop/laptop PC.

edit: I notice that people above have also mentioned the Shield. Sorry for the repeat.

I keep wondering how long youtube will be standable. You can see the ads sneaking in bit by bit over the last few months (5 seconds with cancel, 2 x 5 seconds with cancel, 2 x 6 seconds with cancel, 2 x 6 seconds without cancel on one thing I watch. The worst has been firing up somebody's music list and getting a 5-10 minute(!) ad between each song).

I really should be getting to work on a hoard of videos stored locally. The days of 'free' entertainment are coming to an end.

Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by arsome on Friday April 30, 2021 @09:45AM (#26993384)
Personally I love having a desktop plugged in as I mainly watch YouTube, Plex and play games, but for someone who's planning to use a lot of DRM-encumbered services like Netflix, they often restrict the streaming resolutions available to desktop PCs where the DRM isn't as capable. A Shield will work nicely in those cases though.
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by jessaustin on Friday April 30, 2021 @04:59PM (#26999236)
You can see the ads sneaking in bit by bit over the last few months...

Every time I see a comment like this, I get a jarring reminder that some people don't have uBlock Origin installed. Probably unavoidable on a "device", but like you say the PC is eternal.

Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by srj on Friday April 30, 2021 @10:31AM (#26993961)
I have an Apple TV and was able to get it setup using just an apple account.

It has all worked well except two things:

-The remote is inferior to the one that ships with roku. The touchpad you can get used to, but there are so few buttons and one of them is dedicated to just opening the apple tv app (even though we mostly use netflix / amazon).

-I signed up for paramount+ from apple tv's app, and then later needed to change my credit card number. They want me to open iTunes to do this. I can update my card number on the website, but seemingly to get that associated with my streaming subscription I need to use iTunes. Why a proprietary app on a closed platform is needed for something everyone else let's you use a website for is beyond me.

I'll say Apple is famous for their UX design, but something feels unintuitive with the remote and some of the UI choices. However, overall we've gotten used to it and it works well.

Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by __david__ on Friday April 30, 2021 @12:58PM (#26996048)
> one of them is dedicated to just opening the apple tv app (even though we mostly use netflix / amazon).

That button is configurable in the settings. I have it set to go to the home screen, which makes way more sense to me (and it's what it used to do before the Apple TV app existed).

Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by srj on Friday April 30, 2021 @01:14PM (#26996274)
Thanks! I didn't realize that - definitely an improvement!
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by oivey on Friday April 30, 2021 @12:39PM (#26995765)
I think this is confusing, but the Apple TV app is different than the streaming service Apple TV+. The app is meant to be a centralized location for access to all TVs and movies across all services. It also keeps track of your progress on watching things and tells you when new episodes release.
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by petre on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:52AM (#26995054)
Our earlier edition Apple TV also works with the TV remote (dumb Philips TV) until it starts to act up. I don't have an iPhone. My partner does but one doesn't don't have to use it, as the Apple TV works fine on its own until it doesn't and I have to power cycle it. Apple made this quite annoying as it doesn't have a power button and I have to unplug the power cord every time. Also if you have content on a NAS the VLC app is crap and keeps buffering after a while if the content is mkv, something which Kodi never did.
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by threeseed on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:14AM (#26994474)
You do know they just updated the AppleTV and the remote has more buttons.

Also there is a preference so that button goes to Home screen instead of AppleTV app.

Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by srj on Friday April 30, 2021 @01:11PM (#26996227)
No I didn't know that. I actually find it frustrating that I paid full price for the one we have a couple of months ago and now it's apparently out of date.
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by pimlottc on Friday April 30, 2021 @03:48PM (#26998388)
That’s frustrating but happens with every company. Apple does have a good track record of supporting their hardware for a long time, so I wouldn’t be too worried about it.

You also have the option to buy the new remote separately and use it with your existing Apple TV:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2...

Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by quickthrowman on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:20AM (#26994566)
If you don’t have an Apple phone, it’s not quite as useful since you can enter text on your phone and use it as a remote. AFAIK you’ll need to create an Apple ID to download apps on an Apple TV, and that’s about it. It does come with a remote, the touch remote is one of apple’s few bad products, if you get an Apple TV, wait for the new remote that re-adds buttons.
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by syops on Friday April 30, 2021 @09:46AM (#26993389)
I believe all you need is an iCloud account. If you do get an Apple TV here’s the best way to subscribe to video services. Subscribe to the video service using the Apple TV app (confusing to have an app with the same name as the device). Then install the corresponding app and watch the programs using that service’s app. This will allow you to cancel services easily and you won’t have to create an account for each video service. The Apple TV app itself is garbage and I only watch Apple TV+ content on it.
Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by refracture on Friday April 30, 2021 @10:45AM (#26994102)
An iPhone makes setup easier and it supports some neat things like using the camera on your phone to calibrate color tone, but it's optional.

If you buy a new Apple TV make sure you get the one that just came out with the new Siri remote, it looks much better than the old touchpad one that I think at best people tolerate.

Re:YouTube TV removed from Roku channel store amid Google co... by dawnerd on Friday April 30, 2021 @11:26AM (#26994649)
Despite what people say Apple TV on its own is fine. Yes you’ll miss out on keyboard entry but I wouldn’t call that a dealbreaker at all. Mine pretty much runs as it’s own device.