Re:New evidence that British workplaces are losing viewpoint...
by giantg2 on Thursday April 29, 2021 @09:33AM
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I think the main issue was with the "expectation" part. It carries an insinuation of being forced, or socially shunned, etc. There are choices being made, and choices aren't random. I don't really see expectations that a woman take a lower paying job playing into that very much. I can see more pressure on the other side - like for the man to pay for everything on dates, support their family, etc, with the resulting less pressure on the other side allowing the choice of work that is fulfilling in other ways (societal benefit, fun, less stress, flexibility). Even these roles are choices. A man could choose not to pay for dates, be a stay at home dad, etc. When it come mate selection, there is generally more pressure on the male than the female.
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Re:New evidence that British workplaces are losing viewpoint...
by SketchySeaBeast on Thursday April 29, 2021 @09:52AM
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I'm assume you're male because you're coming at it from that perspective. Do you believe there is no pressure when you're one of the few women in an engineering course? There's a lot at play here, and focusing on your slice may prevent you from seeing the whole.
Re:New evidence that British workplaces are losing viewpoint...
by giantg2 on Thursday April 29, 2021 @10:08AM
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I can see pressure if the woman (or any first-of) is one of the first in their role/job to do well and represent their subgroup. This of course implies that there is a stereotype to overcome, which I see as a very small minority sentiment today. I didn't notice any stereotyping related to women in my classes. Also, in my masters courses the gender mix was probably 60% male 40% female.
There is a lot at play, and there is plenty of variation by location and other factors.
Re:New evidence that British workplaces are losing viewpoint...
by Loughla on Thursday April 29, 2021 @10:42AM
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And what you have done, I am willing to bet, is use your own individual experiences to draw conclusions for the wider world. My own personal experience is that this is almost never a good idea (see what I did there). This is not a values judgment, or meant to be hateful at all, really.
This paragraph reads as if you are saying, "I've never seen it, so it doesn't exist."
Re:New evidence that British workplaces are losing viewpoint...
by giantg2 on Thursday April 29, 2021 @12:31PM
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And the same can be done in the other direction. Are you worried about some rare disease or catastrophe? We have to determine where the line is and if the current laws are somehow not adequate to protect people's rights.
I'm not saying that issues do not exist (see my prior comment about very small minority). From what I've seen, including various statistics, it seems to me that gender discrimination is not common and the laws are already in place to deal with it.