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Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by ur-whale on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:03AM (#26967972)
I'm genuinely surprised it took so long to happen.

Many countries (China, Russia, Iran, etc...) have a giant incentive to escape SWIFT and US-centric control over value transfer.

IIRC, there has been effort by China an Russia to circumvent the petro-dollar jail. Why re-invent the wheel, when a system already exists for doing just that?

Or maybe nation states know something that everyone else doesn't wrt the actual robustness of crypto against state-sponsored attacks.

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by BelenusMordred on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:08AM (#26968008)
> Many countries (China, Russia, Iran, etc...) have a giant incentive to escape SWIFT and US-centric control over value transfer.

While this is true, they also are petrified of something they themselves don't have authority over. I don't think the hesitance is surprising, these are governments that are obsessed with controlling most aspects of their citizens lives.

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by csomar on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @09:58AM (#26969430)
Bitcoin and permission-less currencies are bad news for countries like Russia and Iran. These countries can already transact through designated individuals and off-shore companies. Crypto still need an off-on ramp to traditional finance.

On the other hand, these nation states would use cryto if they were technical and knowledgeable enough of the intricacies of such market. Venezuela already launched its own crypto-currency (the Petrodollar) which was a complete flop. You'd think that a nation state with all its resources, people, sovereignty and army would be able to make a cryptocurrency (probably an Ethereum fork) work. Well, it's simple: They can't.

Most countries today rely on a system they barely understand how it works. They collect taxes, print money and try to export/import stuff. The whole system is glued together by a nation that somehow appeared before, during or shortly after the second world war. Their answer to instability in markets is almost always restrictions (either in money transfers, or blocking imports, or arbitrarily confiscating wealth).

These systems have barely evolved especially in less developed countries, and even in first class countries are still quite archaic. It doesn't help that these system do not have knowledgeable people about these technologies who could help shape policy, recognize trends or act.

The only reason these countries still have semi-functioning finances is that a large portion of the population never heard, or have the technical capabilities to deal with crypto. The newer generation is going to force a re-draw of nation states and probably bankrupt some governments in the process (it's already starting to happen).

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by yardie on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:31AM (#26968171)
> Why re-invent the wheel, when a system already exists for doing just that?

They don't even want to use that system. They want to create yet another that is state-controlled.

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by ur-whale on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @08:57AM (#26968789)
Yeah, I hear you, but there's a built-in contradiction in there: if you want to trade with other countries, this whole "state-controlled" business doesn't work too well.

The US are only in this controlling situation because of a historical accident (WWII).

If they hope to establish non US-controlled ways of exchanging value, I suspect they'll have to relinquish some amount of control, unless - of course - China becomes much more preponderant both economically and militarily.

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by gamblor956 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:02PM (#26971628)
Many countries (China, Russia, Iran, etc...) have a giant incentive to escape SWIFT and US-centric control over value transfer.

Well, the good news on that front is that most international money transfers use the IBAN system rather than swift, and IBAN is run by a consortium of EU banks.

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by ur-whale on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @04:18PM (#26973659)
> most international money transfers use the IBAN system

Source?

And while it may be the case by number of transactions, I'd be very surprised if that was true by volume.

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by valdiorn on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @04:45PM (#26973967)
What would they use other than IBAN/swift??

Edit; I think your parent comment is confusing concepts. IBAN is international bank account number. You enter an Iban as the target address for your swift transfer. I wasn't aware of a different system that also uses IBAN ... is there one?

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by ur-whale on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:35PM (#26975123)
IBAN are a European thing.

When you wire money from e.g. Europe to the US, they don't speak IBAN, you have to specify US-centric bank account designations.

Re:Iran authorizes use of cryptocurrency for imports payment by sanxiyn on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:06AM (#26967994)
China is working on digital yuan. It is currently undergoing field testing.