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Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by o-__-o on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @12:20AM (#26965555)
> Creating a subsidiary business for every type of Google account you have would be quite expensive

Costs roughly $1000/yr to run a properly sheltered LLC. Just saying, that’s a low barrier to overcome for any company turning modest revenue.

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by KorematsuFred on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:24AM (#26965912)
We have done this in past. At one point we had 4 LLCs with 4 adsense accounts each making $30K per day. There was nothing fishy here it was perfectly legal and 100% legitimate traffic. Over time we even split our large website into multiple domains under these 4 accounts to make them profitable. Google eventually banned all 4 over time without ever telling us why. We shut down out company eventually.
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by philliphaydon on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:57AM (#26967936)
I had several domains once for a couple of ideas I was working on, due to them taking about a year to do as it was just personal thing I did in spare time in between playing games and attempting to have a life, I decided to domain park them with Adsense.

I set them up. Clicked on each one once to make sure it worked. Closed it. Didn’t open the domains again.

Week later banned from Adsense for click fraud…

I don’t get it. But I really hate Google now.

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by atat7024 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:09PM (#26971705)
"make sure it worked" is when the ads are displayed — unless you've accidentally disabled clicks or something..?
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by philliphaydon on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:18PM (#26971804)
This was like in 2005. I didn’t really know what I was doing because it wasn’t adding JS to the page. And when updating the NS records it wasn’t rendering properly. So yes I clicked on the ad. It linked me to the site. And I deemed it working. I also even added my (static) ip to the list for ignored clicks.
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by anoncow on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @02:00AM (#26966154)
Why were the accounts banned?
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by kevingadd on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @02:23AM (#26966310)
"without ever telling us why" indicates that they do not know.
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by strogonoff on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:15AM (#26967710)
Sometimes one may be able to take a good guess at where one did not comply with the letter or the spirit of a certain rule, but still not be told which specific violation was detected and triggered a ban. Both are useful information and the question could have referred to either.
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by KorematsuFred on Monday May 10, 2021 @04:35PM (#27110586)
We do not know. I am sure the banning email must have mentioned something but it was far too vague and non-actionable for us.
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by pudmaidai on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @05:26AM (#26967439)
There was a Reddit thread just yesterday asking if the bullying stops once you become an adult.

Evidently not. And sadly there’s no teacher to refer to, unless you can afford to shell some real cash.

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by blibble on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @12:29AM (#26965604)
why so expensive? in the UK it's £13/year (under $20)
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by rexf on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @12:34AM (#26965632)
Depends what US state you choose. In CA, you pay $800 a year for your LLC.

> An $800 annual tax is generally imposed on limited partnerships (LPs), LLCs, ...

Source: https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/2020/2020-568-booklet.html

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by o-__-o on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @12:39AM (#26965659)
It does depend on the state. I am also including registered agents, physical (mailing address) and digital presence. Depending on the nature of the business, insurance is also included in that cost. I did not include increased accounting costs
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by 55555 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @12:52AM (#26965736)
It can be much cheaper in other good states. $250 to 400 yearly rings a bell for WY, NV, DL
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by ronyeh on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:43AM (#26966047)
Only if you live in those states. If you live in and operate out of CA, but incorporate in DE, you end up paying both DE and CA franchise taxes.
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by camhart on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:15AM (#26967712)
WY is even less than that--more like $50. $52 if you pay with a credit card. Though you'll need to pay for the registered agent $25 / year.

https://sos.wyo.gov/Business/docs/BusinessFees.pdf https://www.wyomingagents.com/

But yes--if you live in another state, you'll need a company in that state regardless.

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by alexchamberlain on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:26AM (#26968133)
It's going to be more expensive than that to get accounts prepared, right?
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by lbriner on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:33AM (#26968189)
For small company accounts in the UK, you can file them yourself. It is not completely easy depending on what you are doing but well within the ability of an engineer, as long as you are keeping the relevant receipts etc.

For me, running a company was never expensive, just hassle like sending your annual update to Companies House and understanding the various overlapping communications from HMRC for tax.

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by alexchamberlain on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @07:56AM (#26968316)
Interesting - I thought all companies had to file electronically with tagged accounts - ie you need some level of an accountant.
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by ectopod on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @08:13AM (#26968442)
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by blibble on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @06:10PM (#26974877)
if you're a "micro" enterprise (turnover <£500k and fewer than 10 employees) you don't even need to produce a P&L, just a balance sheet

it can be done entirely for free on the Government's Companies House site, which generates your accounts, the regulatory statements and also does your tax return

takes me about 10 minutes a year, sending the figures to an accountant rather than punching them into the government's website would take longer

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by h0h0h0h0111 on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @10:21AM (#26969672)
Is it even per year? I thought the fee was just upon first registration
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by markvdb on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @04:50AM (#26967182)
You are lucky. Over here, it's rather over 2.5k€ because of the accountants, notaries and state taking good care of themselves...
Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by echelon on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @01:50AM (#26966094)
> Costs roughly $1000/yr to run a properly sheltered LLC. Just saying, that’s a low barrier to overcome for any company turning modest revenue.

I'm paying $200ish annually in Georgia. Am I missing some major filing requirement? This is a big discrepancy.

Re:Google can ban your Android app if they think you’ve clic... by Fezzik on Wednesday April 28, 2021 @02:41AM (#26966426)
OP was including other base fees beyond just the registration fee. The registration fee is $50-$500 annually depending on the state. With most states charging $250 or less.