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Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by chopsueyar on Saturday June 25, 2011 @01:12PM (#2696055)
The system works consistently through heavy rain, smog and a couple of good sized trees.

2.4 miles at 11Mbps.

What frequency is this? 900MHz? Not 2.4GHz.

Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by kragen on Saturday June 25, 2011 @04:59PM (#2696566)
Last I checked, the record for 2.4GHz links was something like 100km. Why are you skeptical?
Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by chopsueyar on Saturday June 25, 2011 @09:31PM (#2697130)
Again, heavy rain, smog and a couple of good sized trees

2.4GHz requires line of sight and has major problems with water and trees.

900 MHz is much more forgiving.

Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by kragen on Sunday June 26, 2011 @03:07AM (#2697601)
Yeah, but we're only talking about <4km here. Rain fade in the 2.4GHz band could produce up to 2dB of attenuation under flash-flood-thunderstorm conditions. 2dB is not a big deal! At 10km or 20km or 40km you might have a point.
Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by chopsueyar on Sunday June 26, 2011 @03:38PM (#2698870)
So, 2.4GHz can transmit through trees?
Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by kragen on Sunday June 26, 2011 @03:51PM (#2698913)
It depends. It doesn't penetrate very far into the trunk, but it doesn't have that much trouble with leaves and twigs. (Until they get rained on.) So you can have a line of sight that's pretty much blocked by trees visually, but quite clear in 2.4GHz.
Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by chopsueyar on Monday June 27, 2011 @11:17AM (#2701588)
So, if it is raining and the tree gets wet, it will not transmit through the tree, correct?
Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by kragen on Monday June 27, 2011 @01:16PM (#2702067)
It's not that simple. Attenuation increases when it rains and the tree gets wet, but whether the attenuation is enough to cut off your connection entirely depends on a lot of things. But sometimes, yes.
Re:Afghans Build Open-Source Internet From Trash by chopsueyar on Monday June 27, 2011 @05:48PM (#2703142)
Well, this was some useful discourse.