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Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by nl on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:52PM (#26951397)
So "stern talking to" is the only action a school is allowed to take?

If students know that then what exactly is the disincentive to engage in bullying that doesn't rise to the level of criminal harassment?

Shouldn't a school be a place someone learns appropriate behaviours with less risk of criminal sanctions? It seems that some form of punishment imposed by schools would be reasonable in some circumstances.

Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by a1369209993 on Monday April 26, 2021 @11:18PM (#26951597)
I am not sure how you got from "(responce <= stern talking to) implies !(severity >= criminal harassment)" to "(severity < criminal harassment) implies (responce <= stern talking to)"[0] via good-faith misinterpretation.

If they're making a nuisance of themselves at school, the school would presumably give them a detention, with repeat offences eventually resulting in expulsion. If they're making a nuisance of themselves elsewhere, the school is not involved. (Note that the latter applies to criminal actions as well; that's what the police are for.)

0: That is, from "X implies Y" to "Y implies X".

Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by nl on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @09:06AM (#26955314)
You seem to be making a bright line distinction between "at school" and "not at school".

This distinction doesn't really exist. Does "school" include virtual learning environments? School sports? Travelling to and from school or sports? Bullying that extends from school to out of school?

Traditionally, schools have always been responsible for these things or have taken actions that occurred out of school grounds into account.

I finished school in the early 1990s and students were expelled then for graffiti attacks out of the school, out if school hours, not in school uniform.

I don't see what is different or new here.

Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by a1369209993 on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @06:18PM (#26962558)
> I don't see what is different or new here.

That's fair as far as it goes, but I'm not claiming it's different or new; I'm claiming it's bad and needs to be stopped.

> Does "school" include virtual learning environments? School sports? Travelling to and from school or sports?

Probably. Probably. Debatably and depends on the mode of transport.

> Bullying that extends from school to out of school?

That's two items; yes to the former, no to the latter.

Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by foobarian on Monday April 26, 2021 @11:35PM (#26951702)
> with repeat offences eventually resulting in expulsion

Expulsion is not really on the table, at least in the U.S.

Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by tomp on Tuesday April 27, 2021 @02:05AM (#26952562)
I’m ok with schools “punishing” people for breaking social norms, but the punishment should be proportional - detention, extra homework, public shaming, etc.

But expulsion is something that will affect the person for the rest of their life. There should be significant burden of proof before such an action can be taken, and we already have a system (courts) to deal with that.

Re:Cheerleader’s Snapchat rant leads to ‘momentous’ Supreme ... by Causality1 on Monday April 26, 2021 @11:28PM (#26951660)
You interpreted his comment in exactly the opposite of the way it was written, as best I can tell.