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Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by Recursing on Monday April 26, 2021 @08:46AM (#26941921)
Actually, zope.interface has been around for 20 years. It just became almost abandoned like the rest of Zope with the era of Django/Flask (and the zope 3 debacle). Nowadays I think Twisted, Pyramid and Plone are the only "famous" projects left using it
Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by runfalk on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:53AM (#26943123)
It's also used by certbot, pyjwt, ckan, proxy.py, scrapy, etc. The list is pretty long but I do agree with you that the majority of packages neither use nor should use it.

https://github.com/zopefoundation/Zope/network/dependents?de...

Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by btown on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:34AM (#26942916)
What was the Zope 3 debacle exactly? I have vague memories of something like that from back in the day, but having trouble finding anything concrete.
Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by toolslive on Monday April 26, 2021 @11:47AM (#26943830)
well, it was more or less the same thing as the python3 debacle. Imagine having a big python2 project and all the cool stuff is happening in python3. You can't upgrade without substantial effort (code & testing). Now replace python2 with zope2 and python3 with zope3. You get the idea.
Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by Recursing on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:56AM (#26943164)
I honestly don't really know, and would also be curious to find out what happened exactly that made Zope almost disappear
Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by rbanffy on Monday April 26, 2021 @09:48AM (#26942453)
zope.interface was never widely adopted.
Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by Recursing on Monday April 26, 2021 @10:16AM (#26942733)
That is true, but I think there was a point in time (2000-2001?) where Zope was very much the dominant python web framework, and the Zope foundation employed many python core developers.

It's even mentioned in the history of python https://docs.python.org/3/license.html

Re:Interfaces and Protocols in Python by rbanffy on Monday April 26, 2021 @12:03PM (#26944072)
Zope was always a decade ahead of its time in the Python space and at least two in the general web framework space.

When I had to explain it to clients I joked it suffered from “Martian Technology Syndrome”.