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Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by thatguy0900 on Sunday April 25, 2021 @12:49PM (#26934176)
I was under the impression that pressing the power button while unplugged was to discharge any electricity left in capacitors, to make sure everything was completely depowered
Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by userbinator on Sunday April 25, 2021 @11:14PM (#26938892)
Yes, this is not an uncommon technique for doing a "true hard reset" on electronics that are normally "soft-off". The idea is that pressing the button will cause it to try to turn on if there's still some charge left, which then drains the charge away quickly.
Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by nomay on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:17AM (#26939783)
My really old Lenovo Thinkpad started insisting to reboot after shutdown a while ago, and after a hard drop that left the battery dislodged, it froze after being powered on.

I had to force it to power off, but that apparently broke it, it won't light up the screen and respond to inputs despite blowing the fan. I disassembled the screen and replugged the data cable, pressed power button in various ways to no avail.

I was about to give up before reading a forum post describing a similar laptop, and emptyed the RAM slots and found it beeped when powered up, so the CPU is OK.

I then unplugged the battery and CMOS battery and pressed power button for a while, put RAMs and batteries back on, and it just revived.

Removing RAMs made the difference, it's done if RAMs were soldered on.

It happened again a few days ago after it was left with no power, and I had to do those thing again, otherwise it has no issues. I think the CMOS battery is probably dead.

Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by slver on Sunday April 25, 2021 @11:03PM (#26938830)
That's precisely what was described, wasn't it?
Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by thatguy0900 on Sunday April 25, 2021 @11:15PM (#26938901)
"I asked the guy what the power button pushing incantation did and he said “static discharge” so apparently there was some sort of static that caused a short or something."

Not really, no

Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by romwell on Sunday April 25, 2021 @11:31PM (#26938985)
So the tech (or the person writing this up) mixed up "static" and "flea power"[1].

I believe the idea of "draining charge that shouldn't be there" has been properly conveyed nevertheless.

[1] https://en.everybodywiki.com/Flea_Power

Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by metaphor on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:39AM (#26939893)
It's difficult to imagine how the underlying fault here is anything other than a latch-up[1] event, likely manifesting on a upstream controller/supervisory chip in the power distribution chain.

The description of this "flea power" reads like some cargo cult narrative that summarily conflates a handful of disjoint electrical characteristics/phenomena. It's like the modus operandi of interwebs consumerism.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latch-up

Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by userbinator on Sunday April 25, 2021 @11:58PM (#26939130)
I have, in several decades of operating and servicing computers and other electronic equipment, never heard of the term "flea power". According to that article it seems to have originated in a Dell service manual, which erroneously calls it "static electricity".
Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by romwell on Monday April 26, 2021 @07:30AM (#26941405)
So what do you call it?

Looks like there's no standard term that everyone uses; I'd say it's entirely forgivable that the tech called it "static" for lack of a better word.

Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by tcauduro on Monday April 26, 2021 @09:41AM (#26942380)
I've always referred to it as "residual" power/charge.
Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by slver on Monday April 26, 2021 @12:31AM (#26939252)
Is it incorrect to call it static electricity, though.
Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by KMag on Monday April 26, 2021 @01:51AM (#26939613)
I mean... it's charge at rest... so electric and static, but in that same sense, there's static electricity in batteries, and static electricity in DRAM (in-between refresh cycles), and any oscillator at the moment when the first time-derivative of charge reaches zero.

I submit that a definition of static electricity as "charge at rest at non-ground potential" is so broad as to exist in any non-trivial circuit and many trivial circuits. Such a definition is therefore less useful than more common notion as electricity generated as a result of physical surface interactions of dissimilar materials.

Calling it "static electricity" is likely to cause reasonably intelligent and well-educated people to conclude it's related to wearing wool socks in Winter while being insufficiently grounded, as opposed to charge being there as a result of normal circuit operation.

Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by CRConrad on Monday April 26, 2021 @02:05AM (#26939711)
Is it really, though -- isn't what happens inside capacitors basically the same thing as we call "static electricity" when it happens between other surfaces? Or, IOW, isn't pretty much anything potentially (Heh!) a capacitor, only pretty much all things except the ones purpose-built as such are really bad capacitors?
Re:The secret Thinkpad powerbutton code to bring dead laptop... by eloisant on Monday April 26, 2021 @08:28AM (#26941778)
The article makes it sound like it's a secret code like a Konami code that the laptop will recognize, but it's not the case.