CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson vaccine

Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by henhouse on Friday April 23, 2021 @07:14PM (#26920357)

Because from what has been observed, the immunity doesn’t last long, and you can get COVID more than once.

Apparently around 8 months. Source: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/12/two-stud...

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by hammock on Friday April 23, 2021 @07:19PM (#26920406)

The studies have only gone on for, at most, 8 months. So for every time period studied so far, including the longest possible time periods, people retain immunity. Perhaps use this science to revise your initial belief/statement.

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by hwbehrens on Friday April 23, 2021 @07:37PM (#26920546)

While I mostly agree, there have been a few rare cases of reinfection; here [0] is a metastudy that looks at several claims of reinfection, ultimately concluding that 6 cases were credible reinfections. So while the relative risk is very low, I think one could make a plausible argument that since the risk of harmful side effects is also low, getting vaccinated may be beneficial.

There is also preliminary evidence [1] to indicate that post-infection vaccination can help to resolve lingering symptoms such as fatigue, breathlessness, and insomnia.

[0]: https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(20)305...

[1]: https://europepmc.org/article/ppr/ppr296506

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by lolinder on Friday April 23, 2021 @08:17PM (#26920836)

6 cases of reinfection out of millions of cases of covid still has contracting covid granting much better immunity than the vaccine.

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by jbd28 on Friday April 23, 2021 @09:09PM (#26921229)

6? lol. The number is 70 with 36,000+ suspected. https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-t...

Vaccine-based immunity allows for a greater variance in neutralizing antibodies to form relative to the spike protein, compared to natural immunity attacking less critical vectors. Get the vaccine even if you had covid

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by scrollaway on Friday April 23, 2021 @10:27PM (#26921718)

Infection is possible with all vaccines as well. Resulting viral load will be what matters: How strong their immune response is, how infectious the re-infected patient is, and how severe their symptoms are.

It's not a binary "You have COVID" vs "You don't have COVID". Not for vaccines, nor for re-infections.

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by PhantomGremlin on Saturday April 24, 2021 @01:19AM (#26922449)

there have been a few rare cases of reinfection

I don't think the word "rare" applies any longer. Reinfection is becoming more common. Here is some info CDC released a few days ago: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/21/health/vaccine-nursing-ho...

An unvaccinated health care worker set off a Covid-19 outbreak at a nursing home in Kentucky where the vast majority of residents had been vaccinated, leading to dozens of infections, including 22 cases among residents and employees who were already fully vaccinated, a new study reported Wednesday.

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by hammock on Saturday April 24, 2021 @02:06PM (#26926976)

That's not reinfection (later infection of recovered covid patients). That's infection among vaccinated people.

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Re:CDC panel recommends resuming use of Johnson and Johnson ... by jandrewrogers on Friday April 23, 2021 @10:20PM (#26921675)

Immunity lasts a long time in the vast, vast majority of people. People that survived SARS-CoV-1 still have strong immune response almost two decades later. You are improperly conflating lack of antibodies with lack of immunity, they are not the same thing. Antibodies are the product of active infection, not having immunity.

It is unhelpful and disingenuous to suggest that lack of antibodies imply lack of immunity or that rare edge cases are the norm. In disease, there are always edge cases.

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