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Re:Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4 by geoelectric on Friday April 23, 2021 @05:16PM (#26919300)
That may depend on where you live, and what your electricity consumption already is. In CA, for example, with our tiered billing and PG&E's award-winning business practices, it's pretty easy for an electric car to rack up quite an energy bill. If you were already using electricity up to the top of your tier, the add for the car will be at $$$ rate.

So they also have non-tiered plans for electric car owners but those are time of use. If you use them at peak for whatever reason, $$$ again. It's a little tricky.

It won't be as expensive as liquid fuel, to be sure, but the savings over time might not be as high as you'd expect. Offsetting with solar seems to be the popular option around San Jose, where homeowners tend to be particularly affluent.

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Re:Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4 by zbrozek on Friday April 23, 2021 @07:04PM (#26920283)
Beware NEM 3.0.

Note that the CA utilities are working to try to keep milking you even if you have solar. The most loathsome part of it is that the utilities are trying to charge you $10/month/kilowatt-peak for the array you own, even if they push zero energy onto the grid. From my perspective, that's ridiculous rent-seeking. Personally I'm working towards getting off the grid entirely.

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Re:Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4 by throwaway0xa on Friday April 23, 2021 @11:20PM (#26921977)
The $10 a month is a service charge to be connected to the grid with a meter, so you can send energy to the grid to get money back, or use the grid when your solar isn't generating enough energy.

I think that's fair. It pays for the meter, the transformer you're connected to, the grid circuit, etc.

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Re:Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4 by zbrozek on Saturday April 24, 2021 @11:31PM (#26930138)
You've misinterpreted the proposal. It's $10/mo per installed kilowatt-peak of solar panels behind the meter. There's _another_ fixed charge that is more reasonable.
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Re:Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4 by mavhc on Saturday April 24, 2021 @02:37AM (#26922751)
It's only fair if the people making polluting electricity pay to clean up the pollution they create
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Re:Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4 by throwaway0xa on Saturday April 24, 2021 @02:42PM (#26927295)
Your reply is nonsensical / a non sequitur. Where I live the local utility is 100% renewable anyway.
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Re:Volkswagen launches its first all-electric SUV, the ID.4 by mavhc on Saturday April 24, 2021 @05:54PM (#26928499)
Then it's fair.

However people making electricity by polluting our planet are stealing from us, so should have to pay more, have to disadvantage those people more than you disadvantage solar producers

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