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Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by Someone on Friday April 23, 2021 @06:46AM (#26913277)
On the other hand “16 gigs ram is the baseline if you plan to do anything more than facebook and instagram” is something to cry about.

Programmers working on products with a billion users should realize that every kilobyte they save decreases world-wide memory usage by a terabyte.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by skohan on Friday April 23, 2021 @07:38AM (#26913640)
It's also not true. I don't know if I'm the only person not doing fluid simulations all day on my laptop, but I don't understand where this idea comes from
Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by fouric on Friday April 23, 2021 @10:55AM (#26915351)
> decreases world-wide memory usage by a terabyte

While true, that's not going to motivate anybody. Memory is not a very scarce resource, we're making more all the time, we can continue to make more, and it's reusable.

Moreover, memory that isn't being used is almost completely useless - the only thing it does is act as disk cache.

Better to use memory than CPU, as the latter actually consumes power (leading to climate change if not powered using renewables etc.) - although even better to use less of both.

A more effective argument would be to look at the number of users on low-end devices, and point out that, the more memory you use, the less these users are able to run your applications.

Not that I'm expecting companies like Slack to care - they design for the high-end user, and if your company forces Slack on you and you have an older device, there's nothing you can do, and they exploit that.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by Someone on Friday April 23, 2021 @01:20PM (#26916954)
DRAM refresh takes power. I don’t have the numbers, but I’m not sure that, in the average smartphone or tablet of today that energy usage is negligible compared to that of the CPU.

Reason for that is that DRAM must be refreshed 24 hours a day, while the CPU is sleeping a lot of the time, even if the device is in use.

Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by jaytaylor on Friday April 23, 2021 @02:55PM (#26917919)
For typical dimms it's about 2-3 watts per stick. Doesn't sound like much until you max out a SuperMicro (or other server grade) motherboard with 24 dimm sockets. :)
Re:Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model by kyberias on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:31PM (#26916413)
Right! And imagine the number of ELECTRONS whey would save from moving! That's also a big number.