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Re:Why Lichess will always be free by Stratoscope on Friday April 23, 2021 @03:43AM (#26912131)
> Ads are an attack on our attention.

That may well be true, but let me tell you a story.

I recently got into binge watching some old TV shows I enjoyed as a kid, like What's My Line and a few others. But most of the YouTube copies have the commercials stripped out!

The few videos that have the old commercials are a blast. The Remington Rand Univac Electronic Brain. The Remington Rand Shaver! And as we all know, 9 out of 10 doctors recommend Camels.

Flintstones fan? How about Fred and Barney sneaking out back to smoke some Winstons while Wilma and Betty mow the lawn.

I wonder which of today's web ads will achieve the cultural significance of these old classics?

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by vishnugupta on Friday April 23, 2021 @03:51AM (#26912195)
I too look back at old ads with fondness and reminisce about the simple times of late 80s and early 90s. However when I recollect how I felt at that time about those ads it's no different from today.

The fondness that I associate with those ads are because they are a window to a world that was simpler and in someways beautiful. Do I miss those times? Somewhat. Do I want those days back? Probably not, because for me (and my generation) the progress has been stupendous.

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by Stratoscope on Friday April 23, 2021 @04:52AM (#26912547)
Indeed, for me that would be the late 1950s. Times were simpler in some ways, not so much in others.

Our house was one of the first built in the neighborhood. The house being built next door after we moved in had one feature we didn't have: a bomb shelter!

So we made that our neighborhood clubhouse. It was a place where all the kids could hang out. We brought cookies and snacks and prepared for survival.

And when nothing bad ended up happening, and the new owners moved in and kicked us out, we were just happy that the world hadn't ended!

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by vishnugupta on Friday April 23, 2021 @06:59AM (#26913367)
That is such an awesome story, thanks for sharing!

Thanks to HN for connecting people across time and space and enabling exchange of memorable experiences.

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by zorked on Friday April 23, 2021 @03:48AM (#26912171)
Sorry but those commercials have no cultural significance. It's just stuff you remember.
Re:Why Lichess will always be free by Stratoscope on Friday April 23, 2021 @03:51AM (#26912189)
You are right, of course. But isn't "cultural significance" just another way of saying "stuff people remember?"
Re:Why Lichess will always be free by auxym on Friday April 23, 2021 @07:33AM (#26913596)
A literature teacher of mine would say, "culture is what you remember after you've forgotten everything about my class".
Re:Why Lichess will always be free by catlifeonmars on Friday April 23, 2021 @06:14AM (#26913041)
What exactly is cultural significance?
Re:Why Lichess will always be free by jek0 on Friday April 23, 2021 @05:38AM (#26912827)
A friend of mine, from Romania, has fond memories of his youth under the communist rule of Nicolae Ceaușescu, being always reminded how great the leader was and how he admired him as a kid.

He discovered later he was only manipulated into that, but still classified this as good memories.

It's a little bit like those old adverts, it doesn't mean it is a good thing to perpetuate.

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by Stratoscope on Friday April 23, 2021 @02:03PM (#26917413)
After reading the replies, I should clarify something. When I see some of those old commercials today, I too think they are appalling. Fred and Barney smoking Winstons? On a kid's show? 9 out of 10 doctors recommending Camels? Ugh. But they sure are interesting to see again.

Some of the other ads were great. A live report from the computer room where the Remington Rand Univac Electronic Brain was predicting the weather? Awesome! And a big step on the way to today where I can use Weather Underground forecasts and talk to you over radio and light waves on our personal supercomputers.

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by lazyweb on Friday April 23, 2021 @03:59AM (#26912252)
That sounds to me like you're having an emotional / nostalgic response to things you were exposed to during your youth. And there is some kind of novelty to watching older commercials, no doubt. But IMO that wears of quickly. What's left is capitalistic propaganda often riddled with sexism, misogynism, homophobia etc. which to me is the real cultural significance. Not exactly sure what changed though, wether companies discovered it's more profitable to put on an act of some kind of progressive consumerism, or if it's an actual response to an evolving society.
Re:Why Lichess will always be free by Stratoscope on Friday April 23, 2021 @04:18AM (#26912351)
Guilty as charged! And of course when I view some of those old commercials through my modern eyes, I am shocked.

But you have to admit that the Remington Rand Univac Electronic Brain predicting the weather was pretty cool, yes?

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by paxys on Friday April 23, 2021 @12:48PM (#26916610)
> I wonder which of today's web ads will achieve the cultural significance of these old classics?

This is very unlikely. Back in the day ads were a form of content in themselves. They had to be memorable to be effective, since your TV did not have a "click here" button. Web ads are more comparable to junk flyers, and I doubt you remember any of those.

Re:Why Lichess will always be free by timeslip1523 on Friday April 23, 2021 @05:17AM (#26912692)
As propaganda ages and stops being an effective meme-weapon, the propaganda fades and the art shined through. Old, obsolete ads for dead products that you look up out of curiosity are mostly harmless.

Still doesn't mean I'm not installing and updating my adblocker!