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Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by andromeduck on Thursday April 22, 2021 @07:57PM (#26909563)
Name me a country where logistics orgs never run out of money or resources.
Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by dredmorbius on Friday April 23, 2021 @03:26PM (#26918247)
Let's invert that.

Let's assume that logistics organisations consistently run out of resources. That this is a probabalistic outcome of operations. The BBC article even gives us a sense of the baseline risk, about 250 cases presently, and 85 new ones reported in 2020 (meaning that typical durations exceed a year in length).

In that case, how do you address the inevitable circumstance without creating a human rights abuse crisis, presuming sufficient consideration and political will exists for this to occur?

Elsewhere in the thread, surity bonds are mentioned. That is, a ship on entering a port or other navigational / marine facility, places a bond in which some large and far more solvent entity assures that compensation where due is paid.

International treaties (to which major transit points such as canals might be obligated to join) are another option.

An international response organisation with the ability to both intervene and impose additional sanctions on any entities which impose such sailor-arrest.

Keep in mind that the 2020 Beruit ANFO explosion occurred after a not-dissimilar situation, in which a ship was deemed unseaworthy and its cargo seized and held under exceptionally (and ultimately massively fatal and damaging) conditions, in part because its ownership and questions over compensation were not met.

(There were quite admittedly other concerns and failures, including by the Beruit port authority and judiciary, but the ownership and payment aspects touched on most of these. Hazardous cargo and storage have been at the heart of several other recent major disasters, including in Tianjin, China.)

Whilst "flag of convenience" regulations make race-to-the-bottom standards in shipping regulation common, obligations to maintain surity bonds or similar instruments of substantial duration (e.g., a year or more) to access major ports, canals, fueling depots, and the like, could help ensure compliance.

Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by labster on Thursday April 22, 2021 @09:17PM (#26910037)
The United Federation of Planets doesn’t even use money, and it’s post-scarcity so they don’t run out of resources.
Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by dragonwriter on Friday April 23, 2021 @02:27AM (#26911554)
> The United Federation of Planets doesn’t even use money

Well, they occasionally say they don’t (and Roddenberry said they don’t), but they actually do (or discussing the fact that they do) in every single one of the series, and several of the movies.

> and it’s post-scarcity so they don’t run out of resources.

They do run into resource limits.

Also, the UFP is, you known, fiction, and not even haed science fiction (or even particularly internally consistent fiction.)

Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by zoshi on Thursday April 22, 2021 @09:48PM (#26910204)
Ships, planets, space, etc. are scarce and owned by various actors. The Federation is an interplanetary government made of sovereign member states, many of which do trade and use money. Even without the use of trade, there must be systems for determining who controls what.
Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by robotbikes on Thursday April 22, 2021 @10:07PM (#26910309)
This discussion makes me wish that I had borrowed the book Trekonomics from my friend when he offered to loan it to me. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekonomics
Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by imagineerschool on Thursday April 22, 2021 @10:30PM (#26910417)
They run out of resources all the time and it drives many plots!
Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by drdeca on Friday April 23, 2021 @01:14AM (#26911194)
fictitious evidence isn't.
Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by edoceo on Thursday April 22, 2021 @10:20PM (#26910368)
replicators tho. makes a huge difference.

we're headed away from UFP and more towards DOOP.

Re:Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after fou... by dexterous on Thursday April 22, 2021 @11:46PM (#26910778)
I had a feeling someone was eventually going to pull this one out. :)