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Re:Cerebras’ new monster AI chip adds 1.4T transistors by verdverm on Thursday April 22, 2021 @04:51PM (#26908044)
Tom's Hardware has some nice tables comparing the specs: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cerebras-wafer-scale-engin...

(more than the IEEE)

This thing pulls 15-20kW of juice!

Re:Cerebras’ new monster AI chip adds 1.4T transistors by meepmorp on Thursday April 22, 2021 @05:07PM (#26908205)
> This thing pulls 15-20kW of juice!

If you look at the wafer she’s holding at the top, it’s seemingly segmented into a 12x7 grid of roughly chip-sized rectangles. That’s 84 “CPUs” at 200-240 watts each, which is pretty well in line with discrete server CPUs.

The amount of heat coming off this thing must be amazing, though.

Re:Cerebras’ new monster AI chip adds 1.4T transistors by teruakohatu on Thursday April 22, 2021 @05:00PM (#26908134)
I did a double that when I realised that was Kilowatts not Watts. This chip uses more energy in an hour than the average household (in my country at least) does in a day.

It may be a very large wafer but dissipating that heat is still very impressive.

Re:Cerebras’ new monster AI chip adds 1.4T transistors by kllrnohj on Thursday April 22, 2021 @05:08PM (#26908231)
It sounds like a lot but it almost isn't? Like this is ~50x bigger than an Nvidia A100, and the A100 pulls up to 400w. 50 * 400 ~= 20kW. So in terms of thermal density it's in-line with existing GPUs.

That said, I'd be fascinated to see the cooling solution. Is it just a massive copper heatsink & a boatload of airflow? Typical approaches of using heatpipes to expand the heatsink won't really work with something this big after all. Or is it a massive waterblock with multiple inlets/outlets so it can hit up a stack of radiators? How do they get even mounting pressure across that large of an area?

Re:Cerebras’ new monster AI chip adds 1.4T transistors by mvanaltvorst on Thursday April 22, 2021 @05:35PM (#26908474)
There's an image on their website[1], pretty huge water pumps.

"To solve the 70-year-old problem of wafer-scale, we needed not only to yield a big chip, but to invent new mechanisms for powering, packaging, and cooling it.

The traditional method of powering a chip from its edges creates too much dissipation at a large chip’s center. To prevent this, CS-2’s innovative design delivers power perpendicularly to each core.

To uniformly cool the entire wafer, pumps inside CS-2 move water across the back of the WSE-2, then into a heat exchanger where the internal water is cooled by either cold datacenter water or air."

[1]: https://cerebras.net/product/