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Re:Employee accused of skipping work for 15 years by ABeeSea on Thursday April 22, 2021 @08:50AM (#26902146)
No one expects the date to be right. But you have to have a plan to iterate on and learn from. “Plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.”
Re:Employee accused of skipping work for 15 years by marcosdumay on Thursday April 22, 2021 @09:15AM (#26902374)
> No one expects the date to be right.

I have never seen this in practice. On my experience, every single person that pushes for estimations expects your date to be right.

Re:Employee accused of skipping work for 15 years by ThalesX on Thursday April 22, 2021 @10:06AM (#26902904)
Oh, I've seen the other kind too! Whenever I have a direct manager, the estimation is expected to be right. Whenever I talk to a manager that is not directly tied to me, they always push the "no one expects the date to be right" narrative. I guess the set of managers that have not been my direct managers is what you are looking for!
Re:Employee accused of skipping work for 15 years by bob33212 on Thursday April 22, 2021 @10:19AM (#26903045)
Then don't write any dates down. It is a basic communication skill to avoid sending out a spreadsheet with dates on it when you know those dates are not expected to be met. Someone reading it is going to assume that there is a problem if tasks are not completed by the date on the spreadsheet.