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Re:EFF sues Proctorio on behalf of student falsely DMCA'd by christophilus on Thursday April 22, 2021 @07:13AM (#26901394)
It’s hard to see it in any other light. You could always have online exams happen in front of an online board— take the human interaction we’ve always used and just move it online.

Proctorio reflects the cost cutting, hyper systemization of education, which is a trend that— every time I see it— seems to be antithetical to actual education.

Re:EFF sues Proctorio on behalf of student falsely DMCA'd by davrosthedalek on Thursday April 22, 2021 @07:45AM (#26901640)
In a room, I can make sure that there is no other person there, that there is no big monitor with solutions, notes, whatever. I can also not see whether the students has another browser open with one of the cheat-websites where one of his faster colleagues has already uploaded the solution. I'm luckily in a field where we can do open-book exams without too much problems, which makes the "hidden notes" a non-issue, but one wants to be sure that it's actually the student who solves the problem. That is much easier in a class room.
Re:EFF sues Proctorio on behalf of student falsely DMCA'd by elliekelly on Thursday April 22, 2021 @11:22AM (#26903760)
If someone can use hidden notes or google to get the answers then the exam isn't testing for knowledge or subject-matter understanding.
Re:EFF sues Proctorio on behalf of student falsely DMCA'd by davrosthedalek on Thursday April 22, 2021 @01:59PM (#26905779)
While it doesn't test for understanding, it absolutely tests for knowledge. Take the medical profession. There are many easily googlable facts a student has to know without google. For example a list of symptoms for a diagnosis (or better: possible diagnoses for a list of symptoms). It's not the only thing, but it's part of the education.

Or in physics (my field), I do want a student to know U=RI. Not google it. Not look it up. I also want them to be able to transform it to U/R=I.