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Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by paxys on Thursday April 22, 2021 @01:05AM (#26898942)
Bitcoin can be a collectible and a store of value without ever becoming a currency. Gold, art, baseball cards etc. all fall into that category.
Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by graeme on Thursday April 22, 2021 @01:15AM (#26898998)
Those all have some kind of use value, and a story attached. Gold makes beautiful jewelry, collector’s cards remind people of childhood and baseball flory, art is lovely to look at and a way to flaunt wealth or feel a connection through the ages. You can look at all three and feel a fuzzy glow of happiness as you ponder the attached narrative.

My point was that, if the author’s argument is true, bitcoin will only have value as a pure collectible if people maintain some wider narrative that opposes the argument in the essay.

No one would collect a sterile piece of cardboard devoid of any story, just as no one would collect “Digital token #385839, definitively devoid of use”.

I’m not saying Bitcoin needs to become a useful currency to maintain a value. I’m saying it needs to have people believe it will, or to believe some other narrative about it which makes them consider it as more than a collectible.

Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by zbraniecki on Thursday April 22, 2021 @01:26AM (#26899071)
That feels like a rationalization of an emotional argument.

Gold's current value is not related to its function as a material for jewelry, but from a myth that it is a store of value. If people would stop believing the myth, the cost of gold would plummet and stabilize around the value it provides as a material for jewelry.

Similarly, "art is lovely" is a really stretched argument. If you want, you could print your transaction block hash and consider it pretty as a math-art concept.

So yes, bitcoin needs people to believe in its value to remain valuable, much like everything else that is not a raw utility - nations, religions, money, corporations, gold, baseball cards, and so on.

Heck, even Ferraris would become much cheaper if people only valued them for their function. They cost a lot primarily because we value them highly due to myths and scarcity.

Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by chii on Thursday April 22, 2021 @01:43AM (#26899150)
> If people would stop believing the myth

imagine if tomorrow, we suddenly find ourselves mining gold from asteroids, and that gold suddenly became super-abundant. Would the price of gold drop to match just the material usage value (e.g., for jewellery and electronics)?

Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by paxys on Thursday April 22, 2021 @02:27AM (#26899428)
Yes. In the same way Bitcoin will be worthless if quantum computing or some yet undiscovered technology makes calculating hashes effortless.
Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by wolfretcrap on Thursday April 22, 2021 @03:08AM (#26899700)
But by then bitcoin would have started using quantum hashes.
Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by omegant on Thursday April 22, 2021 @02:16AM (#26899362)
It has happened before, aluminum is a good example.
Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by ZephyrBlu on Thursday April 22, 2021 @02:23AM (#26899404)
I would say yes.
Re:Bitcoin has few attributes of money but all the attribute... by herbst on Thursday April 22, 2021 @04:51AM (#26900404)
> just as no one would collect “Digital token #385839, definitively devoid of use”.

As someone who gets regular offers for my 3 minute art pieces without promoting this anywhere or so. Literally just by having them. I have to disagree

I can't explain it but people definitly collect useless items