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Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by cutemonster on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:20PM (#26894228)
I wonder about this me too.

To me, seems to indicate that nation state supported evil hacker org (maybe posing as an individual) could place their own exploits in the kernel. Let's say they contribute 99.9% useful code, solve real problems, build trust over some years, and only rarely write an evil hard to notice exploit bug. And then, everyone thinks that obviously it was just an ordinary bug.

Maybe they can pose as 10 different people, in case some of them gets banned.

Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by Spooky23 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:42PM (#26894453)
You're still in a better position with open source. The same thing happens in closed source companies.

See: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-siliconvalle...

"As U.S. intelligence agencies accelerate efforts to acquire new technology and fund research on cybersecurity, they have invested in start-up companies, encouraged firms to put more military and intelligence veterans on company boards, and nurtured a broad network of personal relationships with top technology executives."

Foreign countries do the same thing. There are numerous public accounts of Chinese nationals or folks with vulnerable family in China engaging in espionage.

Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by varjag on Thursday April 22, 2021 @04:37AM (#26900313)
The principal researches appear to be alumni of mainland China schools.
Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by baby on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @03:44PM (#26894476)
Read into the socat diffie-hellman backdoor, I found it fascinating at the time.
Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by throwaway2037 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @10:09PM (#26897946)
Woah. I Googled that! Nice reference. This is a good explanation with more links: https://github.com/AllThing/socat_backdoor
Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @04:14PM (#26894847)
Isn't what you've described pretty much the very definition of advanced persistent threat?

It's difficult to protect against trusted parties whom you assume, with good reason, and good-faith actors.

Re:“They introduce kernel bugs on purpose” by ethbr0 on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @10:01PM (#26897873)
The fundamental tension is between efficiency and security. Trust permits efficiency, at the cost of security (if that trust is found to be misplaced).

A perfectly security system is only realized by a perfectly inefficient development process.

We can get better at lessening the efficiency tax of a given security level (through tooling, tests, audits, etc), but for a given state of tooling, there's still a trade-off.

Different release trains seem the sanest solution to this problem.

If you want bleeding-edge, you're going to pull in less-tested (and also less-audited) code. If you want maximum security, you're going to have to deal with 4.4.