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Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by gruez on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:06PM (#26878370)
>And even if users don’t have an iOS device, an AirTag separated from its owner for an extended period of time will play a sound when moved to draw attention to it.
Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by drdaeman on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:31PM (#26878954)
So, this prevents some legitimate use cases, for example putting a tag in a suitcase for the flight, because it'll start beeping at some point?

A shame. It would've been cool standing at that conveyor belt at the airport and rather than staring at the luggage as it comes, being able to sense one's own stuff.

Also, seems that it's not suitable for putting on a cat or dog's collar for the same reason.

Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by gruez on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:37PM (#26879066)
Presumably "extended period of time" is several days, not several hours.
Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by JohnBooty on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @08:16PM (#26883769)
Probably needs to be more like minutes.

Think about a stalker dropping a tracker into the pocket/bag/etc of their victim.

They slip a tracker in their co-worker's bag at the end of the day. Coworker goes home. Attacker knows where they live now.

Or, maybe it's a stranger on the bus. Or in a club.

The victim is likely going to be home in less than a few hours. Perhaps less than an hour.

Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by drdaeman on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:44PM (#26879231)
That would defeat the purpose of this anti-tracking [counter]measure. One would be able to sneak a tag into someone's bag (or clothes, or car) and track their movement for the whole day. Then get back into tag's proximity to reset the timer.
Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by gruez on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:24PM (#26880053)
If your threat model is 1 day, it's pretty hard to use that for any sort of "find lost things" product. If I forgot my keychain at work, is it going to beep the entire night? What if I'm out sick the next day? Is it going to annoy all my coworkers for the entire day?
Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by drdaeman on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @05:06PM (#26881686)
> If I forgot my keychain at work, is it going to beep the entire night?

No, I don't think so.

As I understand it, the idea is that AirTags would only beep if they detect being moved (probably, accelerometer/motion based, as everything else is probably energy cost-prohibitive). So, no, a forgotten keychain left on a table shouldn't beep on its own, unless someone takes it and carries with themselves for some time. It shouldn't even beep if your coworker notices your keys and moves them to another room for safekeeping.

The idea is that it should eventually alert if you put a tag in someone's back pocket and you or they walk away.

Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by crazygringo on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:10PM (#26879802)
It doesn't say, but I have to assume that it detects it's moving, but moving together with an unrecognized cell phone or something -- e.g. picking up a single unchanging WiFi signal while most other signals come and go.

Of course, if the person being stalked wasn't carrying a cell phone, then this raises the possibility the anti-stalking wouldn't be activated.

Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by 908B64B197 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:39PM (#26879126)
Also rental gear.

I could see businesses being a lot more willing to loan equipment for a trial period if they could put a tag on it.

Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by diebeforei485 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @06:56PM (#26883054)
IDK if they've addressed this feature sufficiently well, but I assume phones could ignore airtags when set to airplane mode.
Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by dzhiurgis on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @04:59AM (#26887004)
> standing at that conveyor belt at the airport

you're not supposed to put batteries in your luggage

Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by manmal on Wednesday April 21, 2021 @06:42AM (#26887733)
What harm could such a small battery do?
Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by fomine3 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @10:18PM (#26884702)
What about to cut wire to speaker?
Re:Apple Introduces AirTag by 05 on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @02:59PM (#26879592)
Just desolder the speaker.