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Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by dcolkitt on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @07:31AM (#26873221)
I agree that kids in an urban environment can be very rewarding. I disagree that the urban environment found in the Bay Area is conducive to kids. Visiting the local park is great. Visiting the local park when the walk is littered with human excrement and discarded needles, not so much. No parent in their right mind would ever go on the BART with a child.
Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by rekoros on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @10:28AM (#26875126)
I've taken my children on BART a few times, even dropped one of them (fell out of a stroller) down the stairs at Montgomery Station once.

It's fun for the kids - why not? - but I have no fond memories. I commuted via BART every day 2006-2012 (albeit just one stop - W Oakland to Embarcadero, and back), and the stuff I witnessed on a regular basis had me thinking "I'm so glad my children aren't here to see this."

Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by digikazi on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @07:41AM (#26873281)
Why wouldn't you take your child on BART?

I'm not looking for an argument, I'm genuinely curious. I live in the UK but I've never visited the SF area.

Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by dcolkitt on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @07:51AM (#26873348)
Even 5 years ago I would. But the level of mayhem, filth, and danger on San Francisco public transit is out of control. The BART makes the Tube look like Tokyo Metro.
Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by bobthechef on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @08:38AM (#26873743)
You can thank Californian and SF officials.
Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by TMWNN on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @03:25PM (#26880070)
Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by aiisjustanif on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @09:16AM (#26874172)
I’m not the poster, but personally I would. I go to London quite regularly and usually stop by San Fran once a year (not 2020). I personally find the BART similar to the MARTA (Atlanta) and DART (Dallas).

I don’t know if you live in London, but I would say they compare to the Northern Line it terms of quality. But at the end of the day the real difference is about riders. I would say you do notice more issues like littering (including dangerous litter like needles) and robbery in the US train lines though.

However, just like most public train lines, you have to learn to mind your business, be aware and don’t lallygag. Also, stick to using it during the day.

Re:Small cities in America’s Mountain West are booming by lostlogin on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @11:07AM (#26875695)
> lallygag.

Thanks for this, a new word for me.

Lallygag/lollygag: to loll about; idling lazily. There is an interesting article on it’s etymology in the NYT.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/25/magazine/25wwln_safire.ht...