The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013)

Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013) by jdmoreira on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @06:07AM (#26872721)

I don’t know how much you know about the atrocities the Japanese inflicted on everyone during WWII but things were much more civilized on the western front and you were dealing with the Nazis and Hitler there. The Japanese were absolute insane and completely fanatics committing unspeakable atrocities. Soldiers that fought the Japanese were absolutely destroyed for life and the Chinese were just one of the asian people suffering all kinds atrocities at their hands.

Japan was already defeated when those bombs were dropped but they were seriously planning to fight to the last man/woman/child. There were plans by the state of mass suicide if they failed.

Now you may think dropping 2 nukes on them is an atrocity of the worst kind by the white man but consider you don’t know as much as the people making the decision.

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Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013) by jdmoreira on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @06:10AM (#26872741)

I can recommend listening to Dan Carlin's Supernova in the East episodes

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Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013) by prepend on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @09:36AM (#26874455)

I second that. It’s pretty fascinating. The story of the Japanese campaign on Singapore and the Malay peninsula is pretty wild for the atrocities by the Japanese.

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Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013) by throwaway4good on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @07:08AM (#26873062)

There is a lot of Hollywood thinking in the American understanding of the second world war. That America somehow won the war because they were good and had god on their side.

However everyone goes into war thinking they have god on their side. Reality is that wars are won by having resources and being nasty.

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Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013) by wildermuthn on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @10:42AM (#26875346)

Actually, the military teaches its soldiers and officers that war is won by making the other side surrender, not by being nasty. The greatest victory is one where they surrender without a single battle being waged (pretty sure that’s in the Art of War).

To that point, the enemy will only surrender if they know you will accept their surrender and treat them decently rather than torturing and/or killing them. War-crimes make it harder to win wars by convincing the enemy they have nothing to lose,

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Re:The Bomb Didn’t Beat Japan Stalin Did (2013) by throwaway4good on Tuesday April 20, 2021 @12:52PM (#26877227)

It's just reading about the firebombings of Tokyo and Dresden or the nuclear attacks on Hiroshimi and Nagasaki gives a kind of different vibe ...

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