Re:Two people killed in fiery Tesla crash with no one driving
by aeternum on Monday April 19, 2021 @03:25AM
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There are definitely accidents with Autopilot that could have been avoided by humans, but we need to compare those against the cases where autopilot prevents accidents that are unlikely to be avoided by humans, like this one: https://youtu.be/bUhFfunT2ds?t=116
It's pretty clear that human paying attention + autopilot is safer than either: 1) human only 2) autopilot only.
Re:Two people killed in fiery Tesla crash with no one driving
by pauljurczak on Monday April 19, 2021 @05:05PM
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I would agree, if the Autopilot didn't need a significant amount of human attention to avoid a simple, potentially deadly crash. Your equation should be rewritten to:
human paying attention to driving + human preventing Autopilot from crashing + Autopilot
I seriously doubt this divided attention produces a safer system with today's technology. Except
Re:Two people killed in fiery Tesla crash with no one driving
by jjav on Monday April 19, 2021 @03:51AM
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> but we need to compare those against the cases where autopilot prevents accidents that are unlikely to be avoided by humans
Right, but do any examples of this exist, ever?
Your link is clearly not an example. Any aware driver would've done the same.
I'm sceptical there can ever be a scenario were tesla autopilot can outdo an aware, conscious driver.
Re:Two people killed in fiery Tesla crash with no one driving
by davrosthedalek on Monday April 19, 2021 @08:50AM
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Some of the examples in the video are actually pretty impressive. I'm not sure I would have seen some of these cars coming. But they only show that human driver with autopilot assist is potentially better than human alone, i.e. human driver, with autopilot backup. I would be surprised if that is not better. But the way autopilot is supposed to be used is that it's only autopilot with human backup. And I would argue that the "with human backup" often has a "because of law, not necessity" undertone)
I'm saying that Autopilot isn't safer than a human driver. The fatal accidents involving Autopilot so far, mostly crashing into stationary objects, were easily avoidable by a marginally competent driver. Tesla is playing with fire.