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Re:Java Is Underhyped by kaba0 on Friday April 16, 2021 @01:19PM (#26836628)
Well, it does considerably more things than a hello world python app. So at least compare it to Python’s full blown backend server with ORM and the like.
Re:Java Is Underhyped by BiteCode_dev on Friday April 16, 2021 @04:43PM (#26838856)
Django: zero dependencies for years, you could literally copy paste the code and it worked, ORM included.

It now has 2 dependencies. It is a 1000 times easier to use than hibernate, despite being one of the worse ORM in Python.

That the problem with old Java libs like Swing or Hibernate: they have been designed for the 90' and don't leverage the potential of what a modern Java version can do.

Re:Java Is Underhyped by lenkite on Sunday April 18, 2021 @01:59AM (#26850159)
You can use lean Java persistence frameworks with lesser dependencies if you wish. I think mybatis only has 4/5 dependencies and 2 of them are the the standard slf4/logback dependencies.

There are many modern java libraries that are very lean and mean out there and package into small-sized redistributable assemblies.

Re:Java Is Underhyped by JAlexoid on Monday April 19, 2021 @10:18AM (#26863003)
Pointing to Swing or Hibernate is akin to pointing to GoLang of 2012 or Python of 2001.