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Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by simion314 on Friday April 16, 2021 @09:34AM (#26833666)
>Apple I’m not sure how they’ve even been in the discussion

Remember that Apple and Google pulled a legal app from their stores, regular Apple users (like 50% of US) can't install stuff on their device without Apple parental approval and the "make it a website argument also fails because Apple is does not let you install a better browser".

50% still affects a lot of people, though Apple fanboys will attempt to say is not a big enough number (remember you could install other browsers and whatever application you wanted on Windows without a Microsoft approval or tax).

Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by ericmay on Friday April 16, 2021 @10:01AM (#26833970)
Depends on how you look at it. Are we comparing operating systems? Then we have a duopoly and should regulated Android as well. Are we comparing phone manufacturers? Well, there's a ton of them, Apple just competes and does the best.

> Apple and Google pulled a legal app from their stores

I can't sell anything I want at Wal-Mart. Doesn't PayPal not allow porn sites to do business? I don't see how this is different.

> Windows without a Microsoft approval or tax

So is it market share or what? What exactly is the monopoly? Microsoft doesn't allow me to play PlayStation games on Xbox. Most computers are sold with Windows operating systems. I don't know what the monopoly is supposed to be with Apple.

Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by simion314 on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:46AM (#26835334)
- consoles, I am against their locking too , there is less complains about them so far since people can jailbreak them and their mostly media/enterteiment devices, but again I don't agree with the locks on consoles either

- monopoly, duopoly is not that important, you can have 3 big actors in a market that are cooperating against the users for their own interests, so the market share is irrelevant and the abuse/damage is relevant. Is Apple not allowing say 10 million users to install some app because of political reasons or 50 million users to install a game because some other policy reason? This people were affected , for example Joe did not know when he bought his iPhone that Apple can block his favorite game , or some app , is friend Bob has Android and he side loaded it, Joe is pissed now and feels tricked because on the box it was not printed that Apple can abuse his trust like this.

Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by jjk166 on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:12AM (#26834863)
> "make it a website argument also fails because Apple is does not let you install a better browser".

I'm currently on chrome on my iphone. Maybe you can't install arbitrary browsers, but you can certainly install different ones. And there's always jailbreaking.

Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by simion314 on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:38AM (#26835219)
Chrome is a bit more then a skin and you know it and I am sure you can't expect to trick competent people with this argument. If iOS would implement PWA then some native applications could be implemented as as PWA and Apple would lose money(I don't believe the security or privacy excuse either, a PWA will always have less access then a native app)
Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by jjk166 on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:18PM (#26835811)
PWA are supported by iOS
Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by simion314 on Friday April 16, 2021 @12:53PM (#26836285)
Is this "Safari the new IE" just a meme https://www.safari-is-the-new-ie.com

I will have to let someone else to continue this since I don't own a iOS device and at work we don't target mobile.

Though I had to fix soem iOS issue sin a third party plugin, it was using some WebGl and it was broken on iOS, so the plugin was using a software(slow and ugly thing) for iOS but then Apple change things so tablets pretend they are desktops and broke the plugin(so from my limited experience iOS browsers are inferior ).

Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by heavyset_go on Friday April 16, 2021 @01:59PM (#26837126)
I can't tell if you're joking or not. Apple refuses to implement Web APIs that make PWAs usable, the same Web APIs that Google, Chrome, Firefox, etc have all implemented 8+ years ago.
Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by katbyte on Friday April 16, 2021 @10:29AM (#26834322)
What app?
Re:U.S. House committee approves blueprint for Big Tech crac... by simion314 on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:51AM (#26835429)
I don't want to name it, because the US guys will start again a big debate why X event is worse then Y event, why this P app is worse then F app, and since X > Y and P< F then Apple is right to ban the legal app P to protect the citizens.

That is a very visible case, but there were other smaller cases , where smaller applications were blocked because they had a link and that link was going to a page and on that page a developer would accept donations and Apple wanted a but from that.

Then you have apps blocked on totalitarian states, an entire nation is affected because they can't side load applications.