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Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by ptero on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:04AM (#26832349)
It is not common, but "a year to value" is not rare either. Some projects (SW/HW interfaces; many multidisciplinary efforts, like biomedical software) take a while to fully get into.

I am not talking about someone not doing anything useful -- that should come quickly. But it may take several months or a year for them to start creating more value than their salary+benefits+other costs. And as long as the new hire shows progress to this I am perfectly OK if the process takes a year. My 2c.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by wyclif on Saturday April 17, 2021 @01:12AM (#26841746)
IBM's apprenticeship program is one year long. I suspect the reason why is because they've been around long enough to know the truth of this.