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Re:Ethical anti-design, or designing products that people ca... by tremon on Friday April 16, 2021 @04:40AM (#26831241)
We are the final arbiter of what we do, this cannot be forgotten or thrown away

While that is true, decision overload is also true: https://health.usnews.com/wellness/mind/articles/2017-03-15/...

It takes mental effort (and hence energy) to resist temptation. We only have a limited amount of mental energy to spend each day. How much energy is highly dependent on each individual's situation, but it's not infinite. The more energy we are forced to spend on worthless distractions, the less energy we have left to make decisions that do matter and can meaningfully change our lives.

Acting like it's ok to be abusive and coercive to people "because they bear responsibility for their own actions" is a more dangerous precedent to set, in my opinion.

Re:Ethical anti-design, or designing products that people ca... by betwixthewires on Saturday April 17, 2021 @12:59AM (#26841685)
I never said it is OK to be abusive to anyone. The companies are responsible for their actions, and we are responsible for ours.
Re:Ethical anti-design, or designing products that people ca... by throw3434053 on Saturday April 17, 2021 @11:49AM (#26845140)
To gain control of our actions we must destroy the means of external control, i.e. these companies. This is the Jordan Peterson "just clean your room" argument, not that cleaning rooms is bad, but it sidesteps the actual problems at hand people are facing.