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Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by atoav on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:13AM (#26830576)
So your advice is "just stop being poor"?
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by jart on Friday April 16, 2021 @04:42AM (#26831257)
It's a question of living within your means. A guy who's fortunate enough to have an engineering job at EA and IBM shouldn't be having personal financial problems, if we consider that many of the immigrants who make his food live comfortably enough to afford sending half their income back to old country. There's a way to live responsibly in any situation and if you can't then you have room for improvement.
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by zelon88 on Friday April 16, 2021 @09:05AM (#26833373)
Comfortable?

I remember 15 years ago working in fast food. Many, many of the employees do exactly this. But it isn't comfortable. I worked with a brother-sister pair from Brazil. They lived together, worked two jobs each 70 hours per week (Dunkin Donuts, McDs, and a hotel between the two of them), lived in a shit apartment with no cable, and still only sent a couple hundred bucks back to Brazil every month. The sister was around 50 years old.

With that money their family was able to afford a house in Brazil.

You sound very presumptuous. I challenge you to find someone you're describing who works in America to support overseas family and ask them how "comfortable" their living situation is.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by konart on Friday April 16, 2021 @05:50AM (#26831782)
>It's a question of living within your means. A guy who's fortunate enough to have an engineering job at EA and IBM

First of all - you are almost never 'fortunate'. Jobs offers do not fall from the sky usually.

Second - you many live well within your means and then have a car accident, or an ill relative, or something else that will make you into piss poor indebted fella real quick.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by djellybeans on Friday April 16, 2021 @11:10PM (#26841307)
(Additionally, QA jobs for game companies are almost never lucrative.)

The core problem is that a median income lifestyle is a relatively unstable state due to unforeseen circumstances like your example. A poor person stays poor (if whatever happens doesn't kill them) which means that poverty is a stable state. A rich person can weather at least a couple disasters, so that makes it a mostly stable state. If you're in the middle, you are in a more unstable position compared to the extremes.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by freddealmeida on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:36AM (#26832616)
Wow. No empathy here at all. The world can go against you for alot of reasons. I went from millions to pauper to millions to pauper. It happens. It depends on your ethical stance. It depends on other people. It depends on what you fear.
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by jart on Friday April 16, 2021 @04:39PM (#26838827)
I'm pretty empathetic to people like football players who make millions and go bankrupt because managing money isn't what nature built them to do. They're also not asking to be hedge fund managers. Would you feel comfortable having your high-level security managed by someone who's living hand to mouth and resents us for not paying him more?
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by corobo on Friday April 16, 2021 @07:45AM (#26832684)
Please also consider that not everyone is neurotypical. I'm of course not diagnosing OP but things like ADHD make it a hell of a time trying to manage personal finances on top of the rest of your life.

If everything was just easy we'd all just do it.

Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by jart on Friday April 16, 2021 @05:15PM (#26839157)
Personal finances don't need to be managed. You put the money in something like Vanguard and get back to coding. However if you love money and relish the social status that spending it commands, then you might be struggling with neurotypicality.
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by corobo on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:52PM (#26839916)
Well I mean there's groceries and rent and bills and whatnot too, I don't think vanguard handles that for you
Re:Ask HN: How can a unhireable person get a job? by ayyy on Friday April 16, 2021 @03:33AM (#26830713)
I know you're being sarcastic, but that sort of is the whole game, isn't it?