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Re:There’s Nothing to Do Except Gamble by w0de0 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @02:19PM (#26824255)
> Our job in life is to engage in value creation.

That's grim! It's not my job in life.

Re:There’s Nothing to Do Except Gamble by polypodiopsi on Thursday April 15, 2021 @05:07PM (#26826122)
The cycnicism in me insists that the the ones saying this also make money in finance; and feel that the purpose of life for everybody should be to create value - of course with an implicit exclusion of themselves; because their purpose in life is obviously to ENJOY. (The latter of course is a silent narcisitic thought that can only dwell in the privacy of the ego, and is not allowed to enter public discourse)
Re:There’s Nothing to Do Except Gamble by anonporridge on Thursday April 15, 2021 @06:41PM (#26827087)
Finance people tell all kinds of stories to themselves about how they're actually adding value to the system with their activities.
Re:There’s Nothing to Do Except Gamble by Invictus0 on Thursday April 15, 2021 @10:36PM (#26828748)
Value doesn't have to be money. You can be nice to someone and that adds value to the world and counts as value creation. If all you do is suck value out of the world then I would argue you are a bad human being.
Re:There’s Nothing to Do Except Gamble by w0de0 on Friday April 16, 2021 @09:40PM (#26840919)
I refuse to accept that my life must fulfill some utilitarianism of nebulous “value,” I would sooner ascribe to a Calvinist predestination than accept that framework for living.

This suffers from a fundamental problem. If the creation of value is the ultimate good, and we are obligated to maximize that good, we could do a lot better job at it than smiling some dopamine into our neighbor as you suggest. We’re all irredeemably evil for not doing so.

Re:There’s Nothing to Do Except Gamble by fullshark on Thursday April 15, 2021 @05:44PM (#26826515)
That's how the gov't views you, as an economic unit = labor production.
Re:There’s Nothing to Do Except Gamble by w0de0 on Friday April 16, 2021 @06:05PM (#26839564)
"The government" is a massive institution inclusive of multiple separate power bases, agencies, motivations, responsibilities, and bosses. It doesn't view me as anything; parts of it view - if "view" is the right verb - as variously a citizen, a suspect, a taxpayer. Always a datum, sure, but the important metadata varies.