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Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by Const-me on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @12:13PM (#26809136)
> I'm also a programmer

I should have noted I specialize on desktop and embedded development. I can always find uses of faster CPUs, more cores, and more RAM.

> I would rather have a thin a light laptop

I agree, but to an extent. I don’t have a gamer-targeted laptop because heavy to carry around.

But still, I believe these unupgradable ultra-thin laptops are a bad deal.

They only saving a few millimeters of thickness and ~0.2kg of weight, for a huge performance cost. BTW, I have installed 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD in my reasonably thin (2cm) and reasonably light (1.6kg) 13” laptop.

> as would most people, judging by sales

Judging by sales, most people don’t need a computer at all, they prefer phones and tablets. On the internets, more than half of page views are now from mobile devices.

Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by foldr on Friday April 16, 2021 @10:35AM (#26834391)
>They only saving a few millimeters of thickness and ~0.2kg of weight, for a huge performance cost.

Can you point to a laptop that's only slightly larger than the M1 Macbook Pro and has much better performance?

Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by Const-me on Saturday April 17, 2021 @08:28AM (#26843752)
If I wanted a new one, I'd look for something like HP ProBook 635 Aero G8 with AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U CPU.
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by foldr on Saturday April 17, 2021 @08:57AM (#26843898)
But there’s no indication from benchmarks that it would have much better performance then the MacBook Pro. Indeed, it would be expected to perform less well on some common tasks - and it has half the battery life. I can’t even find a benchmark comparing that particular laptop to a MacBook Pro. Did you find one somewhere?
Re:System76 Developing “Cosmic” Desktop Environment by Const-me on Saturday April 17, 2021 @05:09PM (#26847474)
There're benchmarks comparing M1 with Zen 2 mobile CPUs such as Ryzen 7 4800U. Based on the results I saw, on average, AMD delivers similar single-threaded performance, and way better multithreaded performance.

Ryzen 7 4800U is very similar to Ryzen 7 Pro 5850U: same core and threads count, same frequency, same 10-25W TDP. The main difference of the new one is Zen 3 microarchitecture instead of Zen 2, and there're quite a few sources comparing Zen 3 to Zen 2.

If you want to be certain, wait for the direct benchmarks.