Re:Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by c...
by cyberscientist on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @05:34PM
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So Iran SAYS "Israel should be wiped out of the map", and that makes all ACTIONS (including boarder line terrorism) by Israel justified.
Our way of buying into narratives and pushing them allows justifications for wars so easy. Just look at Iraq war. Narrative build and bought by us was that Sadam is bad and has bar weapons so let's go to war.
Again I'm not defending Iran. In fact I really hate the regime. I'm just saying what's wrong is wrong no matter who does it.
Re:Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by c...
by dang on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @03:05AM
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Flamewar is not what this site is for. We've banned this account.
Re:Israel may have destroyed Iranian centrifuges simply by c...
by hpcjoe on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @06:07PM
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As I noted, it's not what each say. It's what they do.
If you find yourself arguing against the entity that is the victim of the aggressor entity, I think you have some deep internal reflecting to do. Because such a position, is advocating against defending against actual attacks. Which the aggressor entity has done, in the open, through proxies, as well as in secret. Israel is not the aggressor entity.
If this is what you support, or cannot bring yourself to accept, and insist that this is "narrative" ...
Again, best thing to do is lots of internal reflection.
There's a game siblings sometimes play. One hits another. The injured party responds in kind. The first, the aggressor, calls their parents and complains that the second hit the first and was the aggressor. The second is then punished by the parent for aggression.
This has been the rhetorical, and effectively actual history of the conflicts since prior to the founding of Israel. Iran was a "friend" until they ... changed direction ... in 1979.
Israel is defending itself, actively, against existential threats. If the act of defending itself and its people causes you to label it as evil, that's your business.
Iran is not defending itself against existential threats. It is actively on the offense along multiple fronts. Its activities directly and indirectly cause death of non-combatants. That is, IMO, a very basic and simple definition of evil. This isn't defense. This is offense. For the express purpose of achieving the goals they have enthusiastically repeated for decades.
If you don't think that is evil, that is your business as well.