Surface Laptop 4

Re:Surface Laptop 4 by smoldesu on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @03:06PM (#26797433)

My M1 Air tends to get 7-8 hours of "real world" use (when configured with all of the programs I have on my Thinkpad). Considering that my Thinkpad gets 5-6 hours, with a better screen/GPU/keyboard to boot, I don't reach for the Macbook as often as I'd like. Especially when I'm doing real work.

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by satysin on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:50PM (#26799105)

Interesting. What is "real world use" for you?

I bought my daughter an M1 Air for Christmas, she is a university student that mostly does written work in Word, research (so mostly web and PDF stuff) and obviously video conferences right now. She has no trouble getting 13-15 hours of uni work done (a little less if a lot of video calls).

Compared to the 2018 Air it replaced she says it is "insane". Although battery life is great it isn't a huge deal for her. The thing she loves the most is no fan noise when on video calls. This was actually the reason I bought it for her as she constantly complained about how loud the old Air was as soon as Zoom started up.

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by smoldesu on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @05:11PM (#26799381)

"Real world" for me is working on lightweight container tech and it involves a couple VMs at a time. I also normally keep Spotify or Discord open, and I also have Nextcloud open since it doesn't natively support syncing to it. Combined, this workflow is a disaster for ARM. My $300 T460s actually manages to stay cooler on the same workload.

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by shp0ngle on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @11:39PM (#26802683)

Ah... containers (if you mean Docker) is the one area where M1 doesn't really excel.

You got all the virtualization and all the emulation.

On Windows side... uhh I am not sure what is Docker using, if WSL or WSL2, or something else. But will probably be better for that usage.

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by satysin on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @06:00PM (#26799903)

Ah yes that makes more sense. Are these containers and VMs native or running under Rosetta 2?

I use VMware Fusion a lot on my Intel MBP but haven't had a look at virtualisation on the M1 just yet. Waiting for it to mature a little more.

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by smoldesu on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @06:14PM (#26800035)

They're all native, to the best of my ability. Obviously Docker and ARM go together like toothpaste and peanut butter, so it's not I went into this expecting good performance (don't even get me started on stability though...)

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by satysin on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @07:31PM (#26800955)

Very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to reply, I am always interested to hear different use cases to my own.

Hopefully things improve as Apple Silicon becomes better supported over the next few months.

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by dividedbyzero on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @04:21PM (#26798686)

What is "real work"?

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Re:Surface Laptop 4 by jhoechtl on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @02:42AM (#26803740)

Not delegating things but doing things your own. That mostly involves a sane keyboard.

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