I don't think "irreversible decline" meaning the raw metrics get worse. I think here it means the structure and ideology of the CCP means they will never be able to deliver what the West can deliver, especially on the personal freedoms front.

Maybe decline is the wrong word, and collision course is a better one.

As China globalizes and becomes more exposed to the outside world, they will start to wonder why they can't vote on things like environmental regulation, or why the local factory pollutes their river but they have little say in that process.

In this sense, this is the decline. It's the CCP being undermined by their own economic liberalization.

It is factually true. Chinese have access to poisoned shitty water that everyone has to boil first and that's not only because of that chi bullshit.

Meanwhile I have access to delicious spring water from Alps.

China has achieved only superficial changes that will bite them in the ass in the future.

In the US there are reports of lead and other toxic materials in the tap water.

I dislike China but the US also has those issues, people are just unware of them.

Do you seriously believe China is worse now then it was 50 years ago?

China is not worse than it was 50 years ago however it's development is unsustainable and superficial.

Numbers > adjectives

Chinese has a booming middle class as well as a lot of poor people.

Nationalistic flamewar will get you banned here. You did that repeatedly in this thread, and you broke the site guidelines egregiously with this one. Please read the rules and do no more of this on HN.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I'm not going to ban you right now because you've posted other comments that are within the intended use of the site, but you've been seriously abusing it also. Comments like this one and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26697627 are not ok.

What's wrong with the latter? It's a standard practice of indian outsourcing companies like Infosys,Tech Mahinda,TCL...

Also the "lifting out of poverty" is standard propaganda spread by CCP https://www.firstpost.com/world/china-claims-to-have-ended-e...

What's nationalistic about that?

One-liner national putdowns are nationalistic flamebait. If you had written substantively about "standard practices" that would be different, but you didn't.

As for your GP post, if you read the site guidelines you'll see immediately why that wasn't acceptable as an HN comment.

Yeah except China actually cares about continuing that improvement. You've got that spring water now, but who is working on getting you a newer, better spring water, and has anybody called them a racist sexist misogynistic homophobic demon yet?

>Chinese have access to poisoned shitty water

And the so-called top dog of the west have cities where people for years had to get bottled water because the whole city were poisoned and whole states are drying out. Not everyone in the west are as lucky as those of us with clean water. Definitely not the US.

>And the so-called top dog of the west have cities where people for years had to get bottled water because the whole city were poisoned and whole states are drying out.

The point remains. Tap water is by default not drinkable, whereas water in the US is (barring some exceptions).

No it clearly is not. It migh be to you but I would never drink water in the US from the tap. When you are used to clean groundwater and discussions about water from the Alps not being clean enough then the water in the US is not even on the same level.

And how did it look in the US in the 70's when it were booming like China is now? Children in plastic cocoons because the air were toxic with lead, drinking water full of crap, dead fish everywhere from dumping of chemicals in lakes and sea, radioactive waste leaking, etc.