The problem with this position is its naivety. Are you going to say with a straight face that all potential founders are equally likely to be funded by investors purely on their probability of success, and not via false signals and stereotyping if not straight up bigotry? That there aren't credentials that can be effectively bought to gain access to that?

Markets are just markets, not oracles of unbiased merit. Making whatever the market does morally normative as you're doing is frankly, evil. They're useful tools, but that is all. They should not be a religion.

It's advocating for evil – how evil such advocacy actually is depends on your influence.

That argument sounds familiar, but it's not reflected in the latest YC stats (32% of founders come from underrepresented groups). I feel good knowing that one of the fastest career paths in the history of the world has a 32% admission rate to practically anyone anywhere in the world (again, if you're feeling down about your chances as a US citizen, spend a minute talking to one of the Nigerians in YC and your perspective with change instantly).

>I feel good knowing that one of the fastest career paths in the history of the world has a 32% admission rate to practically anyone anywhere in the world

Anybody, as long as they had a westernized upbringing, access to computers and education, and a middle class or higher status in their country...

Fair enough. But having all those things in Nigeria still puts you way behind someone who was born into a poor family in the US (out of around 200 founders I met at YC, far more of them reminded me of Garry Tan - who is awesome! - than of the Winklevoss twins). It's not ideal in either case, but some things are less ideal than others.

It's simultaneously possible for YC to perpetuate the problem while having better stats than typical.

I was making the opposite point actually: markets ARENT moral, and what they support isn’t moral. It isn’t necessarily immoral either. They’re just systems of consensual transactions where everyone collectively decides value. The parent comment was making the point that markets should be moral, but are currently immoral. My stance is that they have nothing to do with morality.

They certainly shouldn’t be a religion, but they aren’t just “useful tools”. Not infringing on people’s freedom to make consensual decisions should be the default, not some “tool” we “allow” because it’s “useful”.

This isn’t about worshipping capitalism or markets, this about the fact that preserving individual freedom necessarily results in free markets. The core ideal is individual freedom - which is moral - free markets are just the byproduct.

> As long as we are all free to be the founders or the employees

But we're not. Much of it comes down to the simple lottery of the circumstances into which you were born.

If you have an inherited trust fund, or wealthy parents and friends to fall back on, you can take huge risks, one of which might eventually lead to a multi-million dollar payout even if several of them fail dismally in the meantime.

But if keeping a roof over your head and putting food on the table today is dependent on working two backbreaking jobs today and every day, you're not "free" to be a founder.

"To them that have, more shall be given."

As someone who grew up lower middle class to poor, with parents that struggled to put food on the table for a great many years, and who dropped out of an abysmal highschool to go full time into tech at 16 - and is now in stealth mode founding a startup - while what you are saying is OFTEN true, it is never ALWAYS true.

The things I got from my parents are things many people have had - some of which; such as help buying a terrible beat up old ‘78 Dodge Van to move states to my first real job, or a relentless drive to get better, to DO better, a great many people have had. I’ve also been lucky to get into the industry when someone motivated but without credentials could get started.

I’ve had zero money from them since I started working at 16, and before that it was a minimal allowance I earned through hard work with chores. I earned the $200 to buy my first computer digging holes and repairing fences.

Don’t buy into the myth it’s not possible. It’s self defeating. Also, don’t buy into the myth it’s easy for anyone - even those from money. It will test you like nothing else will, and I’be done enough hard things over the year to know