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Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by phd514 on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:32PM (#26781452)
From the announcement: "You should consider the initial code to be at an alpha stage — it is not complete, not thoroughly tested, and not suitable for production use. We are planning to release a beta in the next few weeks, and expect it to stabilize and be ready for production by early summer (mid-2021)."

Given that Amazon announced the fork in January and they don't expect it to be production-ready until summer, I'm guessing they've underestimated the amount of work required to package and distribute a product as complex as Elasticsearch. Given that, I doubt they will be well-equipped to keep pace with new feature development.

Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by acdha on Monday April 12, 2021 @01:06PM (#26781984)
I would question the assumption that this is “not suitable for production use” means “everything is broken and we're way behind” rather than, say, “we are being extremely conservative because our customers will expect support as soon as we say it's production ready and we need to test every upgrade scenario for our large number of existing customers”. The AWS-managed ElasticSearch seems to be pretty popular and I would expect them to be as conservative about new offerings as they are with, say, RDS.
Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by fastball on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:52PM (#26781772)
6 months from start to prod is... not bad at all? You must be a wizard programmer if that is your typical turnaround time.

I don't remember AWS saying something like "it will be ready in weeks" in Jan...

Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by busterarm on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:36PM (#26781514)
Given how poorly of a job Elastic themselves did with keeping the full ecosystem of tools working in lockstep for YEARS, I'm sure Amazon will do fine.

I remember all through Elasticsearch 5 where none of their packaged Kibana dashboards flippin' worked.

Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by retzkek on Monday April 12, 2021 @01:56PM (#26782708)
> they've underestimated the amount of work required to package and distribute a product as complex as Elasticsearch

The bulk of the work thus far has been to strip out the non-OSS components ("X-pack") and the many references to it, nothing to do with packaging, distributing, or even maintaining and developing features.

https://discuss.opendistrocommunity.dev/t/preparing-opensear...

Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by zo1 on Monday April 12, 2021 @03:04PM (#26783657)
I for one will be happy when those are taken out. So many headaches trying to get bloated Kibana to start as a docker container before realizing that some random x-pack-disable flag needs to be set for it to start without a random error.
Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by lornajane on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:36PM (#26781507)
I'm not sure I agree with that assessment. Now that the fork is publicly available, others can contribute to get it ready, which wasn't possible until now.
Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by phd514 on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:39PM (#26781549)
Yes, others can contribute, but significant feature development on large-scale OSS projects tends to be driven by developers paid to work on the project full-time and coordinated by an organized steering committee with clear governance (or company if the product is owned by a single company). I don't see any of that in place for OpenSearch and getting that all started up is not at all a trivial endeavor.
Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by colechristensen on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:36PM (#26781515)
I would assume they’re doing more than just packaging.

A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct

Re:OpenSearch: AWS fork of Elasticsearch and Kibana by z77dj3kl on Monday April 12, 2021 @01:24PM (#26782256)
The fork announcement was announced as a response to the Elastic stuff. I don't think they made any predictions about when it'd be ready in that blog post, so I'm not sure why they would've underestimated anything?