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Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:16AM (#26779681)
What’re the journalists on substack that are publishing new, investigative journalism that isn’t itself linking to or reliant upon other news that got the scoop first? Genuinely asking. (I don’t want and don’t care about commentary. Commentary imo is outrage wank.)
Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by ed25519FUUU on Monday April 12, 2021 @11:27AM (#26780448)
Getting the “scoop” is something reserved for soft pieces. That’s exactly how it works. If you have bad news that’s coming out, you find sympathetic journalists who will help you frame it in a beneficial way (even if the news is damaging).

You’re going to see a lot of this with the nursing home scandal in New York over the next few months.

This was something really common throughout spygate.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SllX on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:32AM (#26779858)
https://thedispatch.com/about

Here you go.

Link is to about page because I cannot remember for the life of me what is members only and what is not. They’ve got reports, fact checks, morning newsletters, weekly newsletters, podcasts (which are all non-member accessible), and guest pieces.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:42AM (#26779963)
I googled “the dispatch political bias” and got political garbage like “ Bernie Sanders and the Rise of Woke Marxism” which took me to a real article on the dispatch website with that title. How the heck is this not political commentary? I’m explicitly asking for news that doesn’t have stuff like this.
Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by 1MachineElf on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:27PM (#26781373)
Assume that all journalism has some from political bias, then analyze stories from different angles to develop an informed opinion. Relying on either the outlet that says "look at me, I have no bias," or the outlet that all the popular people say you can trust, carries with it a dangerous underlying assumption.
Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SllX on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:46AM (#26780000)
Do me a favor and read the about page. Here’s an excerpt:

“ We don’t apologize for our conservatism. Some of the best journalism is done when the author is honest with readers about where he or she is coming from, and some of the very worst journalism hides behind a pretense of objectivity and the stolen authority that pretense provides.”

Aptly describes my exact problem with most “news” publishers: they’re less than upfront and honest about their own biases and everyone has them, and it shapes the institution’s biases as a whole.

The meat and potatoes is the Morning Dispatch and Weekly Dispatch, but they also publish opinion pieces. You’re not always going to agree, just as I don’t always agree, but you asked. Check it out or don’t.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:15PM (#26781170)
I don’t give a flip what political angle they have I don’t want that political angle in my reporting. Why is that so hard to ask for earnestly?
Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by _dps on Monday April 12, 2021 @04:27PM (#26784721)
There is a level of this that is reasonable, which is that what is presented in the writing be factual and not sensationalized. I imagine The Dispatch believes they meet this bar (I have no idea, I just heard of them now).

But there is a level of this that is impossible, which is avoiding prioritizing some aspects and not others. Merely choosing what to put in a headline vs first paragraph vs 5th paragraph is making a subjective decision about what is most important.

Even more subjective is choice of words for complex phenomena that defy simple summary. For example, were the activities of last summer protests, or were they riots? Most people have an opinion on which word is a better fit, but there is no way to deny that both have a basis in objective fact. So, writers choose one or the other depending on their own biases and what they want to emphasize.

Finally, there is the "file drawer" source of bias, which is simply not covering some things that you don't think are important. You're not lying or misinforming anyone, but you are making a subjective decision about what people should be thinking about.

I personally think it's best if a publication is open about how it's going to be making these various subjective decisions. And I think it's dishonest for someone to claim their news reporting can be purely objective.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SllX on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:45PM (#26781652)
You can ask for it; finding it is the real problem.

If I thought it existed, I would be in your shoes right now. My compromise with reality is to prefer publications which are upfront, honest and generally reasonable as determined by the body of their work, not one headline found on Google.

They do reporting, they do opinions, they do newsletter and podcasts which mix both. I can live with that as long as I know where they’re coming from, what their scope is, and as long as they’re not pretending to be something they’re not.

Having read The Morning and Weekly Dispatches from the beginning, I haven’t been disappointed. I also enjoy the G-File and Vital Interests (both part of the Dispatch). Based off your preferences, you might actually enjoy Vital Interests if you are interested in foreign policy, but I can say for certain that you probably don’t want the G-File because that is unapologetic political wonkery, and to Jonah’s credit, he doesn’t sell that as anything but what it is.

That’s one of the nice things about old-style publications: they try to offer some variety and don’t mix reporting with opinion pages.

So to repeat my recommendation: check out The Dispatch, specifically check out the Morning Dispatch, the Weekly Dispatch, maybe Vital Interests.

It might not be your cup of tea, or it might.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday April 12, 2021 @02:41PM (#26783332)
Thanks for the recommendation. I just checked the latest Dispatch Weekly and am pretty disappointed by the reporting there, as a lot of the summaries still read more like political commentary and wankery than reporting facts, and the long essay about some reporters child is completely unnecessary. Is that normal for that newsletter?
Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SllX on Monday April 12, 2021 @03:32PM (#26784030)
I put up a temporary email address in my profile. Email me there, I’ll be removing it tomorrow.

Don’t expect a response before 6PM Pacific, I’ll try to get back to you sooner than that, I’m still working right now.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by adamcstephens on Monday April 12, 2021 @03:28PM (#26783976)
Pretty much all reporting has bias. As they say, they're at least being honest with you. You can't avoid it, because people are inherently biased. They can strive to remove it from the writing, but that doesn't mean they succeed.
Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by thujlife on Monday April 12, 2021 @11:48AM (#26780763)
He asked for substack author, and you provided a non substack link.
Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SllX on Monday April 12, 2021 @12:06PM (#26781027)
Believe it or not, that’s actually a link to a Substack site.

The Dispatch has had a custom domain since they launched at the tail end of 2019.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by comodore_ on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:19AM (#26779724)
The "confrontational libertarian" Glenn Greenwald, who ironically switched to substack because the intercept, tried to meddle with his reporting about the Hunter Biden laptop story, which was censored by facebook and twitter.

EDIT: I guess some people think this a controversial take, hence all the down votes.

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by marcus_holmes on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:26AM (#26779797)
I've been reading his stuff after his "Why I left the Intercept" got posted here.

I've gotta say, I agree with lots of what he's saying about journalism nowadays. The whole article about journalists using the language of victimhood [0] to protect themselves really struck a nerve. I've seen this attitude and behaviour first-hand.

Commercial journalism is a mess, and getting messier. The business model is broken, and journalism is trashing what's left of its reputation trying to save it. I don't know if Substack is the answer. It might just be the final nail in the coffin. But something has to replace this mess.

[0] https://greenwald.substack.com/p/journalists-attack-the-powe...

Re:Why We’re Freaking Out About Substack by SamoyedFurFluff on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:44AM (#26779977)
I looked into Glenn Greenwald but as I said before I’m not looking for political commentary, just the facts, from reporters who aren’t just re-reporting something that some other journalist already found.