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Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by spacemanmatt on Monday April 12, 2021 @08:42AM (#26778722)
Austin native, here.

Things I hate about Austin:

1. PACs keep shouting down mass transit every time there's a ballot measure

1a. takes forever to get across town at 8 and 5

1b. I hate driving. I have worked in Chicago, and I'd like my commute time back for reading email, etc.

2. Housing and schooling are wholly inequitable

3. Broadband access is wholly inequitable

Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by mattchr on Monday April 12, 2021 @09:49AM (#26779394)
You realize Austin just passed a gigantic transit plan in November, right?
Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by spacemanmatt on Monday April 12, 2021 @05:54PM (#26785673)
I do. I voted for it, just like all the others! Color me skeptical due to the real estate lobby who stands to lose the most if Austin gets equitable.
Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by jl2718 on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:02AM (#26779555)
Waste of money. Not going to work. Disaster incoming. Austin is the right size for busses and bike lanes, not trains. This is California exporting their foolish idealism.
Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by gaspard234 on Monday April 12, 2021 @10:05AM (#26779585)
Another Austinite here, we are experiencing massive growth and the line about not being the right size is foolish. The anti-development crowd said the same thing during our last rail vote when the city was half the size in the early 2000's. If we had built then traffic wouldn't be as bad now.
Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by spacemanmatt on Monday April 12, 2021 @05:57PM (#26785690)
> the line about not being the right size is foolish

So, yeah. I think people underestimate the amount of people who believe the contrapositive of "if you build it, they will come." I have SMDH every time a big group has argued that more/better roads will just attract more new residents and we're already too stretched.

Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by jl2718 on Monday April 12, 2021 @11:13AM (#26780276)
Most parts of Los Angeles are not even dense enough to make rail effective for the investment.

Think about it this way. There are about 100 busses in Austin right now.

The $7B rail network could easily buy 10,000 new busses, fully-loaded cost of 10-year service life.

Or put another way, free bus service for 100% of Austin’s commutes, forever. Maybe block off a special lane for busses and you get pseudo-rail at 1% of the cost. Maybe think about rail when the demand is proven. The pneumatic tire is an amazing invention for flexible human transport.

Light rail is almost always a waste of money, and it will probably never even get built, and if it does, it will take forever, and create more traffic than it solves. But if you can credibly suggest otherwise with a single example of a low-density light rail system in any comparable city that got better ROI than busses and bike lanes, I will consider that I may be wrong.

https://youtu.be/ZDOI0cq6GZM

Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by renewiltord on Monday April 12, 2021 @02:59PM (#26783590)
It's one of those things where you're optimizing over terrain you think is flat but isn't.

The political terrain means that BRT will fail. Any road will have to be shared. However, if road space is not threatened, certain political enemies won't be enemies.

So sometimes worse is better because you can assure some people that your solution is Pareto-optimal for them.

Re:Silicon Valley Is Flooding into a Reluctant Austin by spacemanmatt on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @09:00AM (#26806451)
Ironically, it would have played into Abbott's plans to lure CA businesses to Texas if he had built working transit in our major cities. Instead he's got Rick Perry's failed energy grid and the economics of hard-right politics to inspire defections.