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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by c3534l on Sunday April 11, 2021 @02:03PM (#26772173)
Actively working against US foreign policy goals seems to be a pretty egregious act. If proven true, that seems like it would seriously erode or destroy the US alliance with Israel. There's a lot of institutional weight towards support of Israel, but that action would make them an enemy of US foreign interests.
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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by pthread_t on Sunday April 11, 2021 @06:25PM (#26774028)
"a 2013 National Intelligence Estimate on cyber threats “ranked Israel the third most aggressive intelligence service against the US” behind only China and Russia" [1]

"Israel among the U.S.’s most threatening cyber-adversaries and as a “hostile” foreign intelligence service." [2]

"Israel’s snooping upset White House because information was used to lobby Congress to try to sink a deal" [3]

[1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-nsa-document-highlights-is...

[2] https://theintercept.com/2015/03/25/netanyahus-spying-denial...

[3] https://www.wsj.com/articles/israel-spied-on-iran-talks-1427...

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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by ericmay on Sunday April 11, 2021 @07:44PM (#26774637)
Eh it kind of makes sense. Of course they’re going to do their best to spy on America when so much depends on how Americans and their government feel about Israel.
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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by lupire on Sunday April 11, 2021 @09:11PM (#26775183)
They aren't just spying for info. They are spying to manipulate US policy. so they should be more careful about how the US electorate feels about them.
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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by ericmay on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @09:42AM (#26792000)
Well, yea. They're going to try and manipulate American policy because so much rides on how Americans feel about Israel. Certainly they should be careful to not stir up angst and get cut off.

I'd also like to add that this is unfortunately very common. Everybody in the world wants Americans to think a certain way because of the amount of military and economic power the country wields. This ranges from "come visit Mexico" to "the Palestinians are terrorists" to China using Tik Tok (or Russian disinformation campaigns against vaccines) to manipulate people into pro-X stances.

The whole world has turned into an ad.

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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by realmod on Sunday April 11, 2021 @02:19PM (#26772291)
US is divided internally on how to go forward with the JCPOA. Assuming it was Israel, I don't think the government could muster up enough support to punish a long-time ally for something like this .
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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by koheripbal on Sunday April 11, 2021 @06:50PM (#26774272)
I suspect most of the US intelligence community is happy with the attack if it successfully destroyed some of Iran's nuclear capability.

It actually increases the likelihood that they will rejoin the JCPOA under the original limits.

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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by marshmallow_12 on Sunday April 11, 2021 @02:07PM (#26772204)
what the policy makers actually say behind closed doors may be very different from their public statements. And i imagine the State Department, being a human agency, don't have a single, moonlithic, agenda.
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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by MeinBlutIstBlau on Sunday April 11, 2021 @02:05PM (#26772190)
Republicans will never back down on Israel, regardless of how they affect out policies.
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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by stdclass on Sunday April 11, 2021 @02:27PM (#26772344)
you do know that the support of israel in US politics is completely bipartisan, right?

If not, you should read up on AIPAC and who speaks at their events year after year.

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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by vmception on Sunday April 11, 2021 @03:42PM (#26772847)
It is, and they promulgate a complete fiction on the importance of keeping Israel close to the US

Tell them to go cozy up to Russia, make good on that ‘threat’, have fun with that

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Re:Cyber Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facility by lupire on Sunday April 11, 2021 @09:18PM (#26775222)
Sort of. The "Patriot" Right and the "Progressive" Left are less pro-Israel than the mainstream Republicans and Democrats that cater to the donor class (and Republicans who cater to the Armageddon-seeking class.)
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