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Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by ThePowerOfFuet on Saturday April 10, 2021 @04:39PM (#26764936)
> I call them on Whatsapp, but their Android phone is sleeping so they don't receive the call notif on Whatsapp

Is Android really that terrible?

Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by maven29 on Saturday April 10, 2021 @05:07PM (#26765115)
Most Android phones let you turn off mobile data and Wi-Fi while the screen is off. Something similar might be at play, since FCM is pretty reliable, even with the most brutal doze parameters and additional power optimization measures imposed by manufacturers.
Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by jakub_g on Saturday April 10, 2021 @07:09PM (#26766121)
AFAIU each Android manufacturer has their own ad-hoc battery optimizations and opts-in most apps to it by default and users need to opt out. It's a wild west.

I think stuff might work for a while when screen is off but if the phone lies idle for hours, apps get killed etc. and the phone checks for notifs only once in a long while.

Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by bellyfullofbac on Saturday April 10, 2021 @06:15PM (#26765667)
https://dontkillmyapp.com

Pretty much, and I say this as an Android user. The OEMs brag about "long battery life!" but they're fucking up by hibernating apps in the background.

Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by TeMPOraL on Saturday April 10, 2021 @06:34PM (#26765854)
Interesting how things turned around on their head.

Until recently, one thing I hated in smartphones was task management. There was no way to kill an app and keep it dead, no way to manage what processes are running on the phone at any given moment. There were third-party task managers that sorta, kinda sometimes worked, but the phone fought you hard.

I'm kind of sympathetic to the phone vendors here - the app ecosystem is a mess, every app vendor feels way too entitled to their users' resources.

Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by jakub_g on Saturday April 10, 2021 @07:07PM (#26766098)
Signal has a mega-FAQ article on troubleshooting notifications per Android version and vendor:

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007318711-Tr...

Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by xvector on Wednesday April 14, 2021 @10:52PM (#26815709)
This is honestly absurd
Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by zwayhowder on Saturday April 10, 2021 @04:58PM (#26765062)
No, I receive Whatsapp call notifications when the phone is off. But it's also a setting that can be disabled. The scenario described doesn't remotely match the user experience I have with Whatsapp calls.
Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by jakub_g on Saturday April 10, 2021 @07:13PM (#26766152)
It highly depends on manufacturer and phone settings. Some manufacturers have very aggressive battery optimizations by default to claim "look how awesome our battery life is!"
Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by fxtentacle on Saturday April 10, 2021 @05:52PM (#26765470)
WhatsApp is. My wife has the same issue on her iPhone.
Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by kiwijamo on Saturday April 10, 2021 @05:01PM (#26765082)
iOS is the same. My husband has an iPhone and I frequently find he doesn't receive WhatsApps notifications in good time. So for urgent messages I now SMS him. And if I send him photos etc I SMS him to check his WhatsApp. Perhaps it's more something to do with WhatsApp's infrastructure than iOS/Android?
Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by nikau on Sunday April 11, 2021 @02:19AM (#26767890)
Nope, it's likely some vendor modified android that is aggressively terminating background services to save battery
Re:An industry based on missed calls helped bring India online by tgsovlerkhgsel on Saturday April 10, 2021 @06:43PM (#26765923)
Not consistently - most of the time it works, but it still happens often enough.